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Drop in SAT scores biggest in 31 years
AP ^ | 8/29/06 | Justin Pope

Posted on 08/29/2006 8:32:31 AM PDT by RushCrush

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To: 1Old Pro

If we reduce education spending to 0 we'll have infinitely smart kids!


61 posted on 08/29/2006 9:36:01 AM PDT by mhx
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To: RushCrush

It's an essay test.

How can it be scored the same as multiple guess?


62 posted on 08/29/2006 9:37:27 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Jedidah

As for more kids taking the exam, than in the sixties, no way. College was a draft deferment- everyone went, or at least the boys. I always thought that Community Colleges proliferated at this time, just to handle the kids with low SATs that wanted the deferment.


63 posted on 08/29/2006 9:37:44 AM PDT by Eva
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To: RushCrush
Fatigue wasn't to blame, the College Board insisted, even though this year's class was the first to take a new version of the exam which added an essay. It now takes an average of three hours and 45 minutes to complete the test, not counting breaks, up from three hours previously.

NOW can we say FAILED PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM and get it fixed?? NOW?????
64 posted on 08/29/2006 9:38:49 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: airplaneguy
SAT's are useless

They have some value if they can get some kids into college who would otherwise not have gone. For most college prep types they don't do much but duplicate other information, true, except take up some additional space in a student personnel file.

65 posted on 08/29/2006 9:40:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: BelegStrongbow
Looks like a race to the bottom, what with so many kids trying to act ghetto-maxed. One way to prove your street cred is to be dumb on tests. That'll show the Man.

I know you are being sarcastic but we both know, sadly, that too many kids actually buy that nonsense!!
66 posted on 08/29/2006 9:41:03 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Jedidah

I hesitate to mention this, because you're going to think that I'm nuts, but I used to do my son's SAT prep material on the computer, for the fun of it. Unfortunately, I've forgotten most of the math, that I once knew, and a lot of the grammar. The test would be impossible for someone who has been out of school and away from academics as long as I have been.


67 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:38 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Labyrinthos
When I took the SAT back in the mid-70's,

Oh you modernists!!! When I took the SAT, we had to use hammers, chisels and stone tablets!!!!



(Do I really need to add "/sarc"?)
68 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:43 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: mollynme

My son took the PSAT and then took the SAT twice. His score went up slightly. He just wanted to see if it made any difference. You can actually take it as many times as you like. Since we home school, most colleges place a higher empahsis on the SAT.

Regarding the scoring being lower, I am wondering if they are taking into account that in the new test, a perfect score is 2400. If the scores are lower despite that, and are not adjusted, that doesn't bode well...

I also read that this (even the new one) doesn't really predict how well students will do in college anyway... so I wonder, other than making the College Board more money since the test is more expensive, what exactly is the point????

When I was in high school, we just showed up for the test, no prep, no calculator, just a #2 pencil. Now there is a whole lot of prep going on. A different world.


69 posted on 08/29/2006 9:44:01 AM PDT by BRUMama
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To: RushCrush
Proposed new SAT...

[ Sample Questions ]

Math Section:

Q1: How many letters are there in "SAT"?

    a) One.
    b) Four.
    c) Nine.
    d) When's lunch?.


English Section:

Q1: Spell "SAT"
70 posted on 08/29/2006 9:45:10 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: sully777

good post.


71 posted on 08/29/2006 9:46:18 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: RushCrush

I completely ignored the SAT when I was in High School and took the ACT instead...

So did my brother and most of his friends....

I'm pretty sure the trend of kids ignoring the SATs and taking the ACTs has continued.


72 posted on 08/29/2006 9:47:00 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Actually, I wasn't being entirely sarcastic. I see a lot of kids buying into the ghetto mentality, not realizing what else it involves. Only sometimes are they aware and decide they don't care. Far to the contrary, kids would care a lot more if they really knew what was coming, given their choices.

It's when the teachers are casually sensible and who show just as a matter of how they walk around that sane and intelligent is cooler than dumbed-down that this culture can't get a foothold, even among those to whom it is most directly targeted.


73 posted on 08/29/2006 9:48:05 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org)
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To: airplaneguy
With all the grade inflation in today's high schools, the SAT's often one of the only things colleges have to go by when accepting or rejecting students.

Also, a lot of larger colleges (i know Ohio State and OU) give scholarships on a graduated scale of standardized test scores.

There's a reason why so many kids, me included, take the test multiple times, do prep courses, etc. Fair or not, the test is extremely important, and becoming more so...

74 posted on 08/29/2006 9:51:52 AM PDT by buckeyenation
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To: RushCrush

Thank you, XBox!


75 posted on 08/29/2006 9:52:58 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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To: RushCrush

They feel very good about themselves, though!


76 posted on 08/29/2006 9:54:10 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: RushCrush

bump


77 posted on 08/29/2006 9:56:03 AM PDT by VOA
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To: flyingtabby
Especially in your case, as your grammer sucks

Ahem. It's g-r-a-m-m-a-r. Pot, kettle. Note: if you're going to accuse someone of grammar infractions, make sure yours is absolutely impeccable.

78 posted on 08/29/2006 9:56:06 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Jeff Head
Bad news, todays SAT is an already dumbed down version of what I took back in the late 60's. Scores got so embarrassing they dumbed down the test in late 80's earlier 90's. LOL, public schools, waste of money.
79 posted on 08/29/2006 9:57:04 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Jeff Head

I went to a party the night before my SAT, and slept in the HS parking lot so I wouldnt miss it.

Ahh, the benefits of being a "student athlete"


80 posted on 08/29/2006 10:04:04 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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