Posted on 08/29/2006 6:34:02 AM PDT by NYer
In that clauses #1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 are destructive toward the state of Israel, and places millions of Jews at risk of slaughter by barbarian Islamics, this proposal is anti-semitic, and its author a Jew-hater.
Right on, sitetest!
Yet another dreamweaver...we wrestle not against flesh and blood...or economic circumstances or age old grievences...the battle in the Middle East is a spiritual one and has only one outcome.
Sudan--Indonesia Philipines
And apparently the Pope agrees with this 'roadmap to extinction' for the Jews...
This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He offers death to Israel under the pretense of fairness. A very scholarly and calculated destruction indeed.
Until they can learn to 'live and let live', there will never be peace in that region of the world.
"The Muslim world is certainly quite gregrarious in singing Hezbollah's praises, but this will not bring about more democracy, nor modernization, nor well being, nor peace, which are aspirations of all Muslims"
Now that is a LIE!
That is an outright lie.
The original tiny state of Israel (1) did not "take" land from any "Arab" or Muslim residing in the Mandate of Palestine. All of its original land had been land that Jews had bought, over the previous 100+ years of settlement, or "public" unoccupied land that the orginal British Mandate of Palestine had allowed Jews to settle on and (2)because the borders that Israel accepted orginally were based on those conditions, it looked like an inkblot, had parts that were not conjoined with the whole and, if the Arabs were going to make war it appeared to be indefensible.
Only after the Arab nations tried to obliterate Israel, and Israel defeated them in that effort, were there masses of Arab refugees. The Arab leaders themselves called for Arabs to leave Palestine rather than live peacefully next to the Jews in a Palestine that was not ruled completely by the Arabs. The refugees were created by that effort before, during and after the war in 1948 and by the more defensible borders that Israel made as a result of that war effort.
The Arab nations that made that war were not trying to create a separate Palestinian state for the Arabs in Palestine. They each, Lebanon, Syria, Jordon, Eqypt and Iraq had their own territorial or geopolitical ambitions in the region; ambitions that they each hoped to realize in some regard by carving up Palestine once they defeated "the Jews".
Palestinian land left under "Arab" control after the 1948 war, predominately held by Egypt and Jordan, was never politically transformed, by the Arab powers that held it, into any sort of indigenous Palestinian control while they held it. Gaza was held by Egypt who wanted nothing but the UN money to hand out to Palestinian refugees; who were worth more to Eqypt as political refugees than as peaceful, self-sustaining Palestinians. Jordan refused any political accomodation with Palestinian leaders, in spite of the fact that the "west bank", held by Jordan, contained nearly as many "Palestinians" as the population of Jordan proper. The destabilization of Lebanon was advanced not by the "Palestinian-Israeli" issue, but by the fact that Jordan booted the Palestinian leadership and masses of Palestinian refugees out of Jordan, into Lebanon when Yasar Arafat attempted a Palestinian take-over of Jordan.
Yet, fifty years later the world keeps repeating Arab lies about Palestine and about their own roles in destablizing the Palestinians, politically, seeking either their use as geopolitical pawns or seeking to deny them local authority over "Palestinian" lands that Arab rulers controlled.
The centuries, and the Roman Catholic Church, have not changed, with men using Jews as scapegoats for their own perfidy and failures.
"Jesuit Father Samir Khalil, 68, is one of the world’s greatest experts on the Islamic and Arab world. Of Egyptian origin, he worked for years in Egypt and Lebanon. To this very day he divides his time between teachings at St. Joseph’s University in Beirut and the Pontifical Institute of Oriental Studies in Rome."
The term expert today, in almost every field, has lost nearly all qualitative meaning. About the only thing it means anymore is that the "expert" has gotten more of the right influencial people to agree with him/her, and therefore prevailed in the contest with others for their opinion to be heard. There is no qualitative aspect to that achievement, with respect to the Roman Catholic Church in the area of secular matters where its own view of its non-spiritual, secular role intrudes on its objectivity.
The religious and Arab biases and falsifications perpetrated by this "expert", against the actual history of the Middle East cannot be hidden in his high minded language.
Exactly!
Pick one. In every ME country there are Jews and Christians who are being persecuted. Jews and Christians are persecuted in many African nations with large/dominant mohammedan populations. For Pete's sake, there are killings of Jews by the islamonazis in this country (Seattle comes to mind). Sorry but the way to solve this problem is get the so-called moderates (which I am not sure really exist) to retake their "religion". I quote this term since I do not believe it to be a religion at all. It's based upon the rantings of a murderous pedophile.
Great kid! Behind enemy lines on the Left Coast. I am with you on this one, Mad Dawg.
And by appealing to them as a (poor representation of a) Catholic priest of Arab descent. I have a feeling he's been encouraged (at least at first, he seems a willing cohort) to write in about it as a supposedly neutral, Christian figure, to try to lure the West and the Vatican into buying into this purported 'peace' plan. And it wouldn't hurt to try to drive a wedge between Christians and Jews, from their perspective. Under the pretense of fairness! Despicable. Ugh. As a Catholic, I find it offensive on many levels and fear that some leftie clergy will try to push it, even if or when (or especially if) the Vatican rejects it.
Absolutely brilliant! Belongs in any standard reference book on quotations!
I do believe Isreal does a better job preserving the holy shrines in the holy city then what the Pals can ever do.
At this point, he lost me.
It wasn't a display.
It was the action required to shut down further rearmament from abroad, and eliminate the launchers on the ground, and KILL Hezbollah.
Peace is not the aspiration of all Muslims.
This is only the Preface.
Is the rest of his proposal this dishonest ?
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