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In Perspective: California's Race For Governor
CBS5 ^ | Aug. 28, 2006 | Simon Perez

Posted on 08/28/2006 11:31:50 PM PDT by FairOpinion

A new poll out Monday from Survey USA shows Governor Schwarzenegger with a pretty big lead over Angelides at this point.

A survey of 1000 Californians over the weekend shows Schwarzenegger with 52% support and Angelides with 38% support.

Angelides wins by 16 points in the Bay Area and Northern Coast. Schwarzenegger wins just about everywhere else.

It appears Schwarzenegger also has greater crossover appeal.

Seventeen percent of Democrats are willing to vote for him, while 3% of Republicans are willing to vote for Angelides.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbs5.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2006election; angelides; arnoldpoll; california; election2006; elections; poll; schwarzenegger; surveyusa
"while 3% of Republicans are willing to vote for Angelides."

And some of them are posting on this board...

Now the mystery of the constant Arnold bashing is revealed.

1 posted on 08/28/2006 11:31:51 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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ALL HAIL SCHWARZENNEDY! ALL HAIL SCHWARZENNEDY! ALL HAIL SCHWARZENNEDY!

Arnold Maria Schwarzennedy


2 posted on 08/28/2006 11:45:18 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RINOs - the OTHER white meat)
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To: FairOpinion
I'm not voting for EITHER of the candidates. Arnold would win comfortably even without conservatives showing up in November.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

3 posted on 08/28/2006 11:49:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion
A survey of 1000 Californians over the weekend shows Schwarzenegger with 52% support and Angelides with 38% support.

I've said all along that Arnold will win in a landslide.
So NOW will the CA GOP please start supporting some downticket candidates?

Mountjoy For Senate

Tom McClintock for Lieutenant Governor of California

Poochigian for AG

Tony Strickland for Controller

4 posted on 08/28/2006 11:57:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
So NOW will the CA GOP please start supporting some downticket candidates?

Is that a rhetorical question?

5 posted on 08/29/2006 12:26:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: FairOpinion
The voters vote. They should look down upon New Orleans. /sarc
6 posted on 08/29/2006 1:06:04 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: FairOpinion

Angelides will not win. He does not have a chance. He committed the first sin of campaigning: never say you are going to raise taxes.


7 posted on 08/29/2006 1:08:09 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge

Well, they have created a new anti-Garamendi ad on behalf of McClintock.
No one will say how much air time they've bought though.

Here's the ad. If you look closely, you can see Ron Burkle's Yucaipa Companies on the second document shown. lol
http://www.cagop.org/include/garamendi.wmv


8 posted on 08/29/2006 8:12:06 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
You're amazing.

It's a great ad.

9 posted on 08/29/2006 8:17:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks! :-)
I was disappointed I couldn't read the first document, LOL.


10 posted on 08/29/2006 8:48:08 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion
I would be willing to bet even money that you are dead wrong and not even ONE FReeper would knowingly vote for Phil Angelides under ANY circumstances!!!

As you well know, I wouldn't spit on the best part of either one of these liberals!

I reserve just a microscopic smidgeon of respect for the Greek Geek in that at least he's not deceptive about where he stands on CA's important issues and policies!!! (totally unlike his "Republican" opponent, the "Ill Gotten Governor!"

11 posted on 08/29/2006 10:37:38 AM PDT by SierraWasp (With government as your savior from disaster, it must first be your master!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 13, 2006
& August 30, 2006

FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
Edward C. Noonan
Area 4 Director American Independent Party
Yuba County American Independent Party Chairman
Candidate/Governor - State of California
Member - Minuteman Project & Protectourborder.com
(530) 743-6878
vote2006@ednoonan4gov.org
http://www.ednoonan4gov.org
http://www.aipca.org
http://www.constitutionparty.org

Marysville, CA (Originally dated and released March 13, 2006)

My name is Edward C. Noonan. I am running for the office of Governor. I start my campaign declaring that the U.S government is failing the State of California in one of its most elementary, most primary duties: It is not defending our state's borders and entryways, and it is not exerting proper oversight over alien visitors to California.

News accounts are filled daily with reports that every week, thousands of aliens enter the State of California illicitly, or stay here illegally when they ought to depart. Most of these people simply seek to better their lives, to escape from the impoverishment or oppression of their country of origin, to build successfulness for themselves and their households in our state.

Most county sheriff departments and police departments throughout California state that a noticeable portion of illegal noncitizens are common crooks, who believe they can ply their lawless trade better in a land which severely restrains the activities of its police. And a country whose courts gives great leeway to incriminated foreigners.

And too smaller percentage are terrorists, who come here with the intent to obliterate as many of us as they can. The Washington Post reported Islamic "plotted to attack military facilities, synagogues and the Israeli consulate, among other Southern California targets." A federal grand jury here in California indicted the head of a radical Islamic prison gang and three other men on charges of conspiracy to wage war against the U.S. government, conspiracy to kill service members and foreign officials, and other related crimes.

It is clear that rogue foreign visitors are planning the most horrifying means they can think of, to assault us in order to change the direction of our national policies, or even with the hope of destroying our nation altogether. All, however, are breaking Californian laws, as are those California firms that hire them.

We have many laws that are supposed to protect us. Why are these laws not enforced by our President? Why, if the laws themselves are unsatisfactory, are they not changed by our napping Congress?

So why are our immigration laws and penal codes laws repeatedly construed by our law courts to give maximum compassion to the continuation of this mass unlawfulness? If, as "legislation from the bench" intends, a outlaw who enters California unlawfully, or illegally overstays his agreed term of residency here, is to be granted something close to full citizenship status, without substantial penalization, why do we have complex and expensive procedures for authorized immigration? And what do we say to immigrants who follow our immigration laws and wait with patience for their citizenship, when those who jeer at immigration laws and hop the fence and sneak through our state border crossings?

I am the only candidate that wants to stress the plain fact that our laws are not being implemented; that our federal authorities are neglectful in the execution of its most basic obligation towards its masters we, the people. I am also the only candidate that champion the outcry to draw your attention to the effects of that willful neglect, namely, that the fiber of our state is being changed.

I want to stress that change is, of course, nothing to dread for an active and advancing state like ours. Californians have always welcomed change. The great wave of lawful immigration into this state through the late 19th and early 20th century changed and improved us boundlessly though we should remember that in order to give those recent immigrants time properly to assimilate, the Federal Government sternly restricted legal immigration for 40 years, from 1924 to 1965.

Regardless how receptive as we are to change, it must come about in a way that Californians have been give some part in the consideration and then give their approval. Immigration matters which apply to California must have oversight by our state elected representatives. The great changes that are now occurring in California is being done with the approval of the people of California. There is a shortage of good jobs, inexpensive health care, and affordable housing. And the is becoming a problem of even in the languages spoken in our communities. Such changes of our society should require the blessing and confirmation of the people of California. Otherwise we give up our birthright that our forefathers fought to provide for us.

The State of California is being transmuted before our eyes, not in any way we willed or planned or assigned or okayed or voted for, but arbitrarily, by vast inflows of non-citizens who have come not because they are the most able-bodied, or most sought after, or best qualified, or most useful, or most likely to make good Californians, but merely because they come from a country that is side-by-side California. And they are here because they are most barefaced in dodging our laws and border checks.

We have this problem because the immigration authorities will not impose our laws existing laws, laws passed by our own elected Congress! our states, counties and cities, our hospitals and schools, our welfare and police and prison systems, are being pauperized by the demands placed upon them by foreign-outlaws who jeer at the processes we have cautiously constituted for non-citizens entering into California.

The matter of uncontrolled illegal immigration is linked to, though it is not the same as, the issue of immigration in general. Very few Californians are unfriendly to authorized immigration. The overwhelming percentage of us, after all, are descended from legitimate immigrants, if we are not actually legal migrants ourselves.

Moreover as we insist that the laws of this republic be properly, fairly, and humanely enforced by the elected servants of this republic, we also insist that, as a state of free citizens, we should participate, through our political establishments, in conclusions about the number of immigrants to be allowed, the countries or regions we should prefer them to come from, and the kinds of skills we should like them to bring to our republic and our state.

That involvement is being denied to us here in California. It is now more than 40 years since the radical Immigration Act of 1965, which created the current system of legal immigration. Did that act work as designated? Does it need rewriting? Adapting? Repealing? Leaving alone? Seems to be a general agreement among our political classes and media upper crust that this subject is out of bounds that to initiate it in the public debate is "racist," or "bigoted." Why?

I say that the makeup of our state's population is a matter California citizens ought to be concerned with! Why is it unsuitable for us even to discuss what kind of state our children and grandchildren will spend their lives in?

My fellow Californians, I urge you to cast a vote for me in June. I vow to you that my first acts as Governor will be to batten down our State's borders and entry points, discover and expel all foreigners who are living here unlawfully. I will punish all Californian corporations who have breached our laws by hiring illegal aliens, and ask the State legislature to assist my administration in outlining a comprehensive new bill on legal immigration, one suitable for the conditions of the early 21st century.

I want to make it clear that if I am not successful in my pursuit for the post of Governor, your vote will have helped make it clear to our conventional political parties, and to our elected servants and judges and bureaucrats, that we, the citizens of California, treasure our laws, even if our government does not; that we want to see those laws enforced fairly, in the right manner, humanely, without discrimination, but enforced and that we insist on having some say in the make-up of this state that we shall hand on to our children: its population, its surroundings, its traditions, its language, its religions, its legal and political customs, its values. Cast your vote for me in June!


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12 posted on 08/29/2006 11:45:05 PM PDT by ednoonan4gov (THERE IS ANOTHER CHOICE...)
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To: calcowgirl
McClintock is one of the most intelligent voices I have had the pleasure of listening to regarding fiscal and immigration matters. Hopefully he will prevail, believe he is good Gov't, not many like him.
13 posted on 08/30/2006 12:00:00 AM PDT by caresistance
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To: FairOpinion
As a life-long Republican and an activist up until recently and only due to ill-health, I cannot in good conscience vote for Arnold. This is particularly true after he signed SB 1441, the pro homosexual indoctrination of our students. Angelides could not be any worse. I'm sooooo disappointed in Arnold. But I already knew what he was. That's why I voted for McClintock last time around.
14 posted on 08/30/2006 12:27:31 AM PDT by 1lawlady (To G-d be the glory. Great things He has done!)
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To: 1lawlady

"SB 1441, the pro homosexual indoctrination of our students. "


You are mistaken. This is NOT that bill.

SB1441 only adds sexual orientation to the list of classes not to be discriminated against by state agencies or organizations receiving state funding.

The one you are talking about is a bill that he said he will veto, then the Legislature took out most of the offensive stuff, but Arnold's office said, he may veto it anyway, but tha one hasn't hit his desk yet. At first I was confused about which bill is which, but people mentioned that they are different bills, and I looked it up and they are.

In the meantime, Angelides is on record that he would sign that bill and the homosexual marriage bill.

Just remember, if you are not voting for Arnold, you are voting for Angelides.


15 posted on 08/30/2006 6:56:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: 1lawlady

PS. McClintock is supporting Arnold.

"Like many of us, I too have disagreements with some of the Governor's proposals. These differences, however, do not justify the abandonment of our party's responsibility to work tirelessly to reelect this Republican governor and to elect our GOP candidates to statewide and legislative offices.

For this reason, I view any effort to attack Governor Schwarzenegger as an attack on my own candidacy and those of every Republican seeking partisan office in 2006. "


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1568122/posts?page=51#51


16 posted on 08/30/2006 6:59:39 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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