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Winds Of Political Change Beginning To Favor Republicans
Real Clear Politics (originally in USA Today) ^ | 8/28/06 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/28/2006 8:56:25 PM PDT by Rawlings

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To: Rawlings
This article, now combined with TWO interesting pieces on the Dems (a Carville internal memo warning that the election was about to be "stolen") and a piece today in the WaTimes about the blame game "if" the Dems lose tells me . . .

I was, and am, right when six months ago I said the GOP would not only not lose seats, but would GAIN at least one in the Senate and one to five in the House.

61 posted on 08/29/2006 6:09:19 AM PDT by LS
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To: Darkwolf377
"Who is thinking "I'll put the Dems in power, they'll clear up this Iran mess"?"
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The Rats will do what they always do, lie. They will say that Iran got the bomb because we went into Iraq and if we pull out things will settle down. Also, once Iran has the bomb they can become even more aggressive to their neighbors and there isn't much we can do about it for fear they will use it. All of this will play into its "all the Pubs fault" which will cost the the Pubs those squishy rino voters.
62 posted on 08/29/2006 6:09:29 AM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: RippyO
Bean will lose in IL. There are a couple in NC who might lose; the guy in W VA is vulnerable; and so on. There are about 5-6 vulnerable Dems, and really only about 5-6 vulnerable R's. We can actually GAIN a few seats, and will.

Burns, Talent, Santorum will win. Kean and either Kennedy or McGavick or Steele will win. Net gain in the Senate=1.

63 posted on 08/29/2006 6:11:05 AM PDT by LS
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To: wmfights
GOP wins +1 in the Senate, maybe +3 if Chafee holds, possibly as many as +5!!! (yes, you heard it here first)

+1 to +3 in the House. It would have been more if not for the DeLay screw up.

64 posted on 08/29/2006 6:12:05 AM PDT by LS
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To: Rawlings
I think the GOP will get 1 or 2 in the House and 3 or more in the Senate. What does everyone else think?

# or more pickups in the Senate? Almost impossible. We'd have to hold all our seats and pick up 3 out of 4 in MD,NJ,WA,MI, all blue states.

I'm at breakeven to pick up One.

65 posted on 08/29/2006 6:16:06 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (http://blackwellvstrickland.blogspot.com "Go Blackwell, defeat Taxin Ted ")
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To: LS
possibly as many as +5!!! (yes, you heard it here first)

+5? That would be a clean sweep of NJ, MI, MN, MD, and WA (all blue states) plus Burns and Chafee hanging on.

Imagine if the GOP had recruited well then (WI,ND,NM,WV,FL) might have been in play.

66 posted on 08/29/2006 6:27:14 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (http://blackwellvstrickland.blogspot.com "Go Blackwell, defeat Taxin Ted ")
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To: LS
"GOP wins +1 in the Senate, maybe +3 if Chafee holds, possibly as many as +5!!! (yes, you heard it here first)

+1 to +3 in the House. It would have been more if not for the DeLay screw up."
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Boy I hope your right. I don't see it though. I think the base is not as highly motivated and I think it will cost us the tight races. The biggest thing helping the Pubs is the absence of a plan by the Rats if they get a majority.

I don't believe the polls give us a good measurement until a month or so before the election.
67 posted on 08/29/2006 6:29:02 AM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: wmfights

Don't be so sure it can't happen. As often occurs the elections are won in tides. By that I mean most house races will break one way. Increasingly it looks to be the GOP's way. The Senate is a little more fickle but I'm not very concerned about it. (And after all, we 60 seats for a real majority and that won't happen this year.)


68 posted on 08/29/2006 6:43:45 AM PDT by Rawlings (Tipton Time!)
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To: Rawlings
"By that I mean most house races will break one way."

I think that they are going to break the other way this time because of voter turnout.
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"The Senate is a little more fickle but I'm not very concerned about it. (And after all, we 60 seats for a real majority and that won't happen this year.)"

I think the reason the conservative base will not turnout as strong as hoped for is because of the Senate. It's obvious we need at least 70 Pubs to have a Republican Senate because of all the Rino's. The Senate has been the burial ground for all things conservative.
69 posted on 08/29/2006 6:50:29 AM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: Darkwolf377

You mentioned something else that has not been mention - here - and may play a part. Gas prices are going down! They are not nearly as low as this time last year, but 25 cents is 25 cents. And what if they go down nationwide another 30-40 by November? Would that not be good news for the Pubbies?


70 posted on 08/29/2006 6:51:15 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: wmfights

I think we have more to fear from losing hardcore conservative voters than we do squishy RINO voters. I see no evidence of RINO's suddenly backing Dems on Iran if they haven't been turned off to the Administration already, but I've read a LOT of conservative displeasure with Bush here, including calls to "teach them a lesson". We can't blame RINos and Dems for every single thing when we have some conservatives actively pushing to "teach them a lesson" this fall.


71 posted on 08/29/2006 6:58:02 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: 7thson
And what if they go down nationwide another 30-40 by November? Would that not be good news for the Pubbies?

I don't know, but I hardly think gas prices "only" being higher than they were this time last year isn't much of a plus.

72 posted on 08/29/2006 6:58:43 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: tkathy

the winds against the republicans was nothing but mainstream media hot air...


73 posted on 08/29/2006 7:00:19 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: edzo4

It's way too early, but the recent generic ballot of likely voters -- buried by the MSM -- showed a tie between the GOP and the RATS, which is a huge movement, if it holds.

Gas prices are heading down and will drop further. That's very good for the GOP.

The economy is holding up, notwithstanding the slowdown in housing. That is good for the GOP.

The wild card is getting Iraq calmed down, and the MSM will do everything in its power to help the RATS. Nasty "October surprises" are coming, none of them favorable to the GOP.


74 posted on 08/29/2006 7:14:07 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: NeoCaveman

Yah, that's why I said they should be kicking themselves about ND, WV, and FL especially, which were winnable.


75 posted on 08/29/2006 7:20:16 AM PDT by LS
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To: wmfights
The base is not motivated . . . yet.

I have a bad feeling that some terrorist attack or some other extraneous thing will motivate them before election day.

76 posted on 08/29/2006 7:21:21 AM PDT by LS
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To: mwl1
Iraq has calmed down there are less US soldiers dying that is why the media now reports the number of so-called civilian deaths

for example this is the spin the NY times is trying to put on Iraq now:

Iraqi Death Toll Rose Above 3,400 in July By EDWARD WONG and DAMIEN CAVE Published: August 15, 2006 July appears to have been the deadliest month of the war for Iraqi civilians, reinforcing criticism of a new Baghdad security plan.

But this is the story the times wants to bury:

By ROBERT BURNS AP Military Writer WASHINGTON Aug 25, 2006 (AP)— The death toll among National Guard and Reserve troops in Iraq has plunged this year as citizen soldiers play a smaller combat role against an insurgency that increasingly targets Iraqis. Thus far in August, five members of the Guard and Reserve have died in Iraq, compared with 44 at this point in August 2005, the deadliest month of the war for the Guard and Reserve. The number of Guard and Reserve deaths for the year totals 54 less than one-third of the 189 recorded at this point last year. In the comparable period in 2004, the death toll was 92, according to Defense Department casualty records.

this is why the democrats want us out of Iraq so badly now, if we stay much longer it will become clearer and cleareer that we are WINNING!

77 posted on 08/29/2006 7:25:26 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: Rawlings

What needs to be driven home is that the Lamont win signals the death of the Democrat Party, now the Soros Party. America must be told who they're really voting for if they vote Democrat.


78 posted on 08/29/2006 7:39:39 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: Darkwolf377

"I think we have more to fear from losing hardcore conservative voters than we do squishy RINO voters."
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All indications seem to be that the Pubs figure they have the hard core conservatives no matter what. Why else do they seem so willing to move to left of center.


79 posted on 08/29/2006 9:48:43 AM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: wmfights

My point is, the only people who've said they may not vote for the Republicans this year are hardcore conservatives who see the R's as moving left. I haven't read similar thoughts about RINOs voting for Dems, or at least no more than usual.


80 posted on 08/29/2006 9:52:06 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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