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1 posted on 08/28/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 08/28/2006 6:32:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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Wow.
"To put it simply, no Darwin, no Hitler," said Dr. D. James Kennedy, president of Coral Ridge Ministries.

No wonder these guys are Creationists. With cognitive skills like that, one would fall for anything.

And you can't ever blame one man for another's actions. That once was a proud conservative precept.

These men aren't conservatives.

3 posted on 08/28/2006 6:35:03 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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So why are these gutter cultists getting airtime? It's like consulting David Duke on political matters. Cut off their media air supply and they'll go away.
4 posted on 08/28/2006 6:36:03 AM PDT by Physicist
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Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy.

Have they advocated killing those who don't agree with them?

6 posted on 08/28/2006 6:37:16 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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By Coral Ridge's premise, Mohammed is to blame for Osama bin Laden.

Not sure about the rest of the article, but they nailed this part correctly.

}:-)4

7 posted on 08/28/2006 6:37:50 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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"It argues there should be no separation of church and state.

Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy."

Ridiculous. We DON'T have seperation of church and state, so the author is saying we are already the "Taliban", in his eyes.

And why he chooses to pick on some "never-heard-of" little group in Florida, I have no idea, especially when Imams are preaching hate in destruction right here in our own cities.

This idiot writer can get bent.


8 posted on 08/28/2006 6:38:00 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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Oh, and by the way, any valid points that the author had about the Darwin-Hitler link (which, I agree, is way too much of a stretch) went right out the window when he used the "Taliban" reference to refer to Coral Ridge. Coral Ridge Ministries doesn't go around chopping off hands or executing those that disagree with them.

Basically, using the "Taliban" reference when referring to conservative Christians should be a corollary to Godwin's Law--invoke it, you automatically lose the argument. He did, and he lost.

}:-)4


10 posted on 08/28/2006 6:39:53 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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What a cr@ppy article.

That said, Darwin would have been appalled at the application of evolution theory to human society. "Social Darwinism" is no Darwinism at all. HE opposed the idea the use of his idea for eugenics.


12 posted on 08/28/2006 6:40:37 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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What a cr@ppy article.

That said, Darwin would have been appalled at the application of evolution theory to human society. "Social Darwinism" is no Darwinism at all. HE opposed the idea the use of his idea for eugenics.


13 posted on 08/28/2006 6:40:39 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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The problem with this silly screed being, of course, that "Social Darwinism" was called that for a specific reason, and one of its chief aims was a eugenic approach to improving the human race. Whether or not Charles Darwin intended it to occur, people did (and do) attempt to apply his theory to human development.

The Nazis were not alone in this -- Margaret Sanger was another notable devotee -- but the Nazis did have their "racial theories," and they attempted to put them into practice.

I've been reminded many times that the theory of evolution has no moral implications. But of course -- like any scientific theory -- it does. And as the nastier aspects of "Social Darwinism" have made clear, the moral implications of evolution can be rather uncomfortable.

16 posted on 08/28/2006 6:41:53 AM PDT by r9etb
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If it wasn't for Einstein, we wouldn't have to worry about North Korea and Iran right now.

DAMN YOU EINSTEIN!


19 posted on 08/28/2006 6:43:08 AM PDT by oldleft
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Janet Reno would have smashed these people in no time.

Of course, RATs are great at attacking other Americans.

23 posted on 08/28/2006 6:45:55 AM PDT by lormand (Nuke the Islamic States, or kiss your @55 goodbye)
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I don't know about a direct connection between Darwinism and Hitler, but Darwinism, or the atheistic fundamentals undergirding it, led to the taking over of our schools and universities, because these people who have done this, and it started in the 19th century, think they can bring about a Utopia by programming the minds of students.

The idea is to play down individualism and maximise social dynamics, so as to create the ideal world, in which everybody gets along.

In the process they've thrown out the Judeo-Christian foundation of western society, not to mention freedom. That's why they get along so well with the Muslim crazies.

David Kupelian points this out in his book, "The Marketing of Evil"
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27 posted on 08/28/2006 6:49:45 AM PDT by RoadTest (- - - for without victory there is no survival. -Winston Churchill)
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Brummet is the biggest idiot editorialist I've ever read, and that goes a long way. Everything he writes is so full of logical holes it is as if the man writes Swiss cheese.


29 posted on 08/28/2006 6:50:11 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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"You can't equate a thinker and a madman, or science and crime."

Tell that to The Max Planck Society.


32 posted on 08/28/2006 6:52:35 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Anyone who would equate these people with the Taliban is a blithering, no-nothing idiot.


33 posted on 08/28/2006 6:53:07 AM PDT by RightOnline
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More like no Nietzche no Hitler but even here the case is indirect & sloppy. I have read that something like half the German soldiers in the trenches of WWI had read Nietzche's The Twilight of the Gods. Whereas a similiar percentage of allied soldiers had read the bible. As I said, this isn't much to go on.

What can be said of Nietzche is that there is probably no American football coach who has ever quoted Nietche in a half time pep talk. (Or Feuerbach, Or Marx, or Hegel. Most college students in my time would read on the bathroom walls "Ghengis Khan. Immauel Kant.")


35 posted on 08/28/2006 6:54:27 AM PDT by ckilmer
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Its amazing to watch those here who love Darwin just pounce on this and not even have watched the show. Ann Coultier did a great job of explaining this link and why its there.


37 posted on 08/28/2006 6:54:47 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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So now the MSM is trying to create November as a referendum on christianity.

Islamic Facists good, all christianity bad. (and by extention jewish faith becaue former is based on the later)

So first it was just marriage amendments are sponsored by radical christains.

Now ALL bad things are christian.


42 posted on 08/28/2006 7:00:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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������?����??&ve I'm a superman by getting away with murder. And when get caught, I defend myself by blaming Nietzsche. After all, he influenced me. Even if I really was influenced by Nietzsche, does that let me off the hook?

According to this artricle, it does. It opens by saying that positing an influence from Darwin to Hitler frees Hitler of fault.

Then again, emotional impact always did make better eliminationist propaganda than reason, as you-know-who could attest.

44 posted on 08/28/2006 7:07:02 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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