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America's Taliban strikes again
Arkansas News Bureau ^
| 28 August 2006
| John Brummett
Posted on 08/28/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Liberal Classic
One thing, I'm amused that so many people jump on the author for his hyperbolic comparison of Christians to the Talibs, but no one seems to recognize the absurdity of blaming the Holocaust on Charles Darwin. When Annie Coulter blaned the Holocaust on Darwin it was all "She's just being a polemicist. Don't have a cow"
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:12:44 AM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(Make peace with your Ann whatever you conceive Her to be -- Hairy Thunderer or Cosmic Muffin)
To: JamesP81
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:12:59 AM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(A wall first. A wall now.)
To: stormer
When in Rome I don't tell lies.
This seems to have escaped you, so let me put into more mathematical terms that you might understand:
hyperbole /= lies
Better now?
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:13:08 AM PDT
by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: Moose4
Basically, using the "Taliban" reference when referring to conservative Christians should be a corollary to Godwin's Law--invoke it, you automatically lose the argument. He did, and he lost. Especially when you precede that reference with the word, "thus."
Beware of this liberal substitute for reasoned thought.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:13:11 AM PDT
by
HIDEK6
To: DoctorMichael
"The purpose of Creationism is to destroy and discredit the Conservative Movement.
There are only two types of Creationists:
1) Those that know they are are telling a lie and are therefore Evil, and 2) those that are so pig-ignorant that they believe the lie told by those who know they are telling a lie"
...is this a joke?????
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:15:07 AM PDT
by
scottdeus12
(Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
To: r9etb
But in the case of Darwin, as with Marx, there is a specific logic to their ideas which lends itself to the sort of misuse (if it is misuse...) that later occurred. Cowardice and illogic all in one sentence. How very efficient of you.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:15:08 AM PDT
by
steve-b
("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
To: BenLurkin
Amazing how no one seems to have paid much attention to your post, which documents what a small step it was from evolution to eugenics, and from eugenics to genocide. (Eugenics also clearly begat the legalization of abortion.)
To: JamesP81
Of course. But that makes me wonder:
Is hyperbole > lie, or hyperbole < lie ?
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:17:30 AM PDT
by
stormer
(Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
To: Dr. Thorne
They pay money for their air-time like everyone else. Uh huh. And how much did they pay for this editorial?
Perhaps you think they should not be allowed to speak?
I think they should not be provided platforms. Let them scream at passersby from the alleys like the other weirdos.
To: EternalVigilance
The pattern of history is clear: Nations that lose their reverence for God are only one short step from a complete devaluation of the lives and the liberty of those who are made in His image.
That may be true about nations based on religious beliefs, including those based on the "divine right" of a king. But this nation was not. It was based on philosophical beliefs. Primary among those beliefs was freedom of conscience.
If we lose our commitment to that belief....
-Eric
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:18:05 AM PDT
by
E Rocc
(Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
To: Moose4
Oh, and by the way, any valid points that the author had about the Darwin-Hitler link (which, I agree, is way too much of a stretch) went right out the window when he used the "Taliban" reference to refer to Coral Ridge.
I am not sure that I can accept your logic. You are saying that if the author of this article had not referred to those he criticized as "Taliban" then Darwin would not be responsible for Hitler, but because the author of the article did use the term "Taliban" to describe a Christian group, Darwin is to blame for the Holocaust?
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:18:41 AM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: hellbender
We've been told repeatedly, including in this thread, that science has nothing to say about morality, but here you seem to be saying that morality must change as science progresses. No, I'm trying to say that a solid system of morality doesn't try to cover up the truth, it faces it and deals with it. That's all. A solid (non-relativistic) system of ethics should have no problem facing the facts.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:19:19 AM PDT
by
Quark2005
("Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs." -Matthew 7:6)
To: DoctorMichael
Sorry, but unless you are being sarcastic or practicing hyperbole, I believe you missed by far the largest percentage...ie. those who actually, truly believe that God created man and the earth upon which mankind resides. Who believe He did it, and that it was a direct, intelligent decision on His part to do so.
If, in your thinking that makes me evil or ignorant...well, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Such thinking, however does not make me either evil or ignorant.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:19:39 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: Dr. Thorne
I haven't heard one word of refutation of what Kennedy says, only insults. You've missed about a thousand posts on two other threds.
It boils down to two things. First the documents Kennedy uses to demonstrate Hitlers hatred for Christianity are as phoney as Dan Rather's Bush memos.
Second, Hitler pushed selective breeding, a concept that predates Darwin by 2500 years (at least).
Blame Plato.
But then, the shifting of blame in this way is hardly conservative. More like whiny liberal mush.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:20:13 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
To: Jeff Head
What do you think would have happened if nobody challenged such rhetoric?
The Left is far too fond of such comparisons to begin with, calling conservatives fascists and such. Let's not give them any ammo to make it look like they actually have a point.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:20:25 AM PDT
by
Senator Bedfellow
(If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
To: ICE-FLYER
Ann Coultier did a great job of explaining this link and why its there.
I hardly find this a point in favor of the attempted link, given her innumerable errors on the subject of evolution.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:21:46 AM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Jeff Head
Jeff,
IMHO, I think he's just a bomb-thrower.....I'm not seeing him defend his "arguement".
Scott
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:22:28 AM PDT
by
scottdeus12
(Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
To: E Rocc
It was based on philosophical beliefs. Actually, if you read the Declaration of Independence that started it all in motion, and explained the reasoning, it is clear that the philosophy was based on religious belief. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights..."
Key to that however is the clear message you gave...and that is free conscience. Freedom of thought and expression are indispensable to liberty, but the founders also recognized (and spoke of it often) that it was equally indispensable for that freedom to be self governed by moral constraint as found in religious practise, particularly Christianity.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:25:14 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: E Rocc
But this nation was not. It was based on philosophical beliefs.
I give you John Adams, who said: "[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Once we become a non-religious, non-moral people, then the American experiment is effectively over.
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posted on
08/28/2006 8:26:09 AM PDT
by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: JamesP81
It just seems like an appropriate place, on several levels, for this passage from Romans chapter one:
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible manand birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
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