[Dimensio]

Oh, and by the way, any valid points that the author had about the Darwin-Hitler link (which, I agree, is way too much of a stretch) went right out the window when he used the "Taliban" reference to refer to Coral Ridge.

I am not sure that I can accept your logic. You are saying that if the author of this article had not referred to those he criticized as "Taliban" then Darwin would not be responsible for Hitler, but because the author of the article did use the term "Taliban" to describe a Christian group, Darwin is to blame for the Holocaust?

[Moose4]

All I'm saying is that if he's trying to refute Kennedy's arguments, leading off by calling Coral Ridge Ministries "America's Taliban" is a really lousy way to do it. He goes to the ad hominem argument so fast, he looks like he's got nothing but slurs and attacks instead of a reasoned refutation.

From what (little) I know about Hitler, anyway, he got his racial theories from people that were contemporaries of, or even slightly before, Darwin. H.S. Chamberlain and the Frenchman Gobineau, for two examples. He took their theories of the superiority of the Aryan and the inferiority of the Semite and added the violent German nationalism he felt as an Austrian youth, then mixed it all together while he was a bum in Vienna before World War I. I don't know whether Darwin had any direct impact on Hitler or not, or whether Hitler himself even read Darwin. There were enough racialists out there that Hitler could've quite easily picked up his theory on eugenics without even hearing of Charles Darwin.

I want facts taught as facts, theory taught as theory. Give kids the facts and the various theories behind them, and let them reason things out. So in that respect I guess the hardcore evolutionists around here think I'm some sort of weird Amish Luddite or something. But, to draw a direct line between Darwin and Hitler? That's too much of a stretch. Racial superiority theories and especially anti-Semitism far pre-dated Darwin.

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