Posted on 08/27/2006 7:34:46 AM PDT by calcowgirl
Those who believe in nothing will fall for anything, as the old saying goes. So it's only fitting that a Republican Party that has ceased to believe in anything has fallen for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Maybe in the early days of his administration, and through the defeat of his reform agenda last November, it was defensible to support him. But no more. Yet many Republican leaders at the state GOP convention in Century City were still atwitter over the Terminator's tired clichés and faux tough talk.
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At Century City, Schwarzenegger blasted the Democrats: "Our friends in the other campaign want to go back to the failed policies of the past – higher taxes, more government spending, more government regulations and less growth."
Compare what the other party does with Schwarzenegger's program of higher debt spending, more government spending and more government regulations and less growth, and it's quite a choice, isn't it?
Of course, the Democrats are always bad. So, of course Republicans will usually rally around their candidate, no matter how far afield his viewpoints might be. But a point is reached where it's not worth it anymore, where victory isn't so sweet because "our" guy isn't in any fundamental way different from "their" guy.
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At the Republican convention, Schwarzenegger refused to be seen with the Republican slate of down-ticket candidates. Tom McClintock, one of the most principled men in modern political life, is running for lieutenant governor against John Garamendi, who during an Editorial Board meeting a couple years ago actually sung the praises of the Cuban health care system! ... The governor is too good to stand with McClintock and Poochigian or some of the other perfectly well-qualified GOP candidates for statewide office? Then Republicans should be too good to stand with him.
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(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
Given that the budget is already strained, and he is now promoting a new $100 Billion Bond Bonanza, I would say NO. The new bonds create an additional $4 billion dollar annual obligation for the general fund for debt servicing. If revenues don't continue rising or there is one hiccup in the economy, there will be no choice but to CUT, CUT, CUT--or to raise taxes. We have already seen that he has little compulsion to do the former.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
They don't have to agree.
There is the power of the Veto which can only be overturned by a 2/3 majority of the legislature (which the dems don't have).
Unfortunately, the Governor shows no will to use the power in such a manner
which leaves us taxes or "fee" increases, or yet more borrowing .
Ah, thank you for the clarification. The current Gov is much further to the left than Pete Wilson. I would be willing to hold my nose and vote for "moderate" Pete Wilson. I will not do so for Ahnuld. Ahnuld is Gray Davis with a "R" next to his name.
We share your pain!
This statement offers an excellent example of the problems, exhibited by moderate Republican partisans on FR.
1) The moderate doesn't comprehend that refusing to raise taxes is a sign of a moderation, not cvonseravtism. Cutting taxes is the sign of a fiscal conservative. The moderate believes that not raising taxes will appeal to conservatives.
2) Republican partisans tend offer facts into eviddence that they know, or should have known, are false. They do it frequently on this forum. In this case it's a whopper.
The Austrian is raising taxes at a rate of increase that's greater than Gray Davis and, in total, more than Pete Wilson, who still holds the single year, California record. SChwarzenegger's numbers don't include the $15B in deferred taxation that Schwarzenegger promoted to pay for the car tax deception. If that $15B/$30B was included in his 2004/2005 numbers, he'd be the king of single year tax increases for the whole US, not just California.
No goldstategop, The Austrian is big on taxation. They're necessary to support his big spending.
I'll offer the same advice that I've given to the CAGOP account on FR. Come to the forum. Join the discussion and contribute. If those contributions are disinformation, misdirections or outright falsehoods, then don't bother. You aren't contributing.
BS! You support Philth with almost each of your posts.
Only in your dreams. Your path is the path toward defeat. That is your only goal, defeat of the CAGOP.
Contribute to your division and your desire to defeat the CAGOP, no thanks.
Never have, never will. My posting history demonstrates that your accusation is pure BS.
At least not from the inside like a Trojan Horse!!!
Republican "leaders" felt powerless to stop him with all that irrelevant popularity!!!
They would have found ways to stop a Democrat in many more cases!!!
Just because the whole danged CAGOP has been led astray from their own commitment to their own platform, doesn't mean the rest of us have to go all peacefully along with that mind set!!! No Sir! It does NOT!!!
Some of us respectfully refuse!
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
The massive taxes come later when all the bond money has to be paid back.
LOL...........You are so smart! You know my intentions better than I do. I am amazed at your mind reading skills.
Thanks for recognizing that I so skilfully pulled your covers!!! (grin)
By 'us' I assume you mean the far right, and he easily captured the middleground by disclaiming the fringe. If you're on the fringe you shouldn't be surprised at 99% of the people using you as fodder for ridicule and contempt. Trouble is that fringe 1% scares away about 25% of the middleground. Another trouble is that about 10% of the far right identify with the fringe and think of themselves as 'the fringe'. So, by disclaiming the 1% he sacrificed the 10% but gained the 25%. Seems easy enough for me to understand.
I, too would like a true Republican Governor. Arnie ain't it, and I share you lack of brownie points for him. Were this a primary there would be no way I would be supporting him. This does not mean I would prefer a Philty Angelides governorship, as most the the ilk would like.
"Arnold has never said he was one of us. FO and his other cheerleaders had better wake up!" Or what?
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