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To: Paleo Conservative

Thanks for the ping -- a larger version of the runway map is here: http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0607/00697AD.PDF

Wow -- 3500 vs 7000. Huge mistake.

Do they say "two-two" or "twenty-two"? If the latter I can see how the pilot MIGHT have heard wrong. But aren't they supposed to repeat back the info?

Pilots out there?


486 posted on 08/27/2006 11:13:09 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: freedumb2003

"two-two", not "twenty-two".


487 posted on 08/27/2006 11:13:39 AM PDT by Sting 11
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To: freedumb2003
Thanks for the ping -- a larger version of the runway map is here: http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0607/00697AD.PDF

That PDF is also available on the page to which I linked.

491 posted on 08/27/2006 11:15:42 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: freedumb2003
This is how a sample controller-aircraft "conversation" for this particular takeoff would have gone, by the book. Comair usually drops the first number of their flight number for ATC comms:

Comair: "Lexington Ground, Comair 191 ready to taxi with the ATIS information."

LEX: "Comair 191, Lexington Ground, taxi to runway 22."

Comair: "Taxi to runway 22, Comair 191."

Comair: "Lexington Tower, Comair 191 ready for departure at runway 22."

LEX: "Comair 191, Lexington Tower, fly runway heading (or another assigned heading), runway 22 cleared for takeoff."

Comair: "cleared for takeoff, runway heading, Comair 191."

501 posted on 08/27/2006 11:19:48 AM PDT by Sting 11
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To: freedumb2003

You say two-two... all the time, every time when talking about runways, headings, speeds, or altitudes. They have to repeat the info since this is a controlled airport. Really, I'm having trouble wrapping my finger around this one. The tower should've been all over this, as well. Despite the darkness, you should be able to easily see that the a/c is on the wrong runway. Awful, awful stuff.


504 posted on 08/27/2006 11:23:00 AM PDT by jcs1744
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