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Peter denied His Savior three times, after confessing and knowing that He was the Son of God...and I will hazard the guess that his knowledge of his Savior at the time of the denial was much greater than these two men's. Yet, he went on to be a great leader in the Chuirch and a great Apostle for Christ to the end of his days.

He died for it too.

I will not judge them based on this coersed statemnent, despite the overriding concerns and danger that their circumstance may generate...that's my only point.

Obviously, it isn't up to us to judge.

My only point is that a coersed confession is no confession to any rational mind,

This isn't about things rational, more about what can be rationalized.

I agree. It is about what the Islamofascists rationalize and what they do based on lies and coersion...tools of the adversary.

It is also about the souls of these men and my original posts were geared towards those who would judge their potential eternal welfare based on these coersed statements. I simply will not do so.

Yes, ultimately Peter died...but all of us will die as well I do not believe Peter's eternal welfare is in question...at least not in my mind. His denial of Christ...which Christ knew he would do...led him to become a great champion for His Savior and the Church.

Now, I agree that the terorrists will be emboldened and attempt more. It is their desire to "convert" the world to Islam in such a manner...which means basically enbslave all to their ideology on pain of death. We must fight that to the death.