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To: Brytani

I thought about this a lot this morning at church. Oddly enough, the reading today was about the Jews having to choose between the gods of the Ammorites and the True God.

I would doubt, first of all, that either of the two journalists was a practicing Christian (most journalists aren't, regardless of who they work for) so in a sense, they weren't rejecting their Christian faith, specifically.

But in the eyes of the Muslims, they were doing just that, because the Muslims regard the West as synonymous with Judaism/Christianity, so the Muzzies got the propaganda value they wanted out of it, and the ME has just become much more dangerous for all. This won't be the last of these kidnappings for forced conversion (propaganda) purposes.

In terms of the early Christian martyrs, there was serious debate in the early Church over whether Christians who had apostasized could be forgiven and welcomed back. It was decided that they could be, although of course they had to do penance.

Fortunately, most martyrs realized the importance of what they were saying and doing and did not apostasize, or, as you say, there would have been no Christianity. Words and gestures are our way of communicating our interior disposition to the world; interestingly, what the reporters said was not considered binding by them, but obviously was considered so by their captors.


730 posted on 08/27/2006 6:57:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Good points you make. Thanks for sharing them.


738 posted on 08/27/2006 7:04:08 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: livius
Well, I don't know and it's not my place to state if either of the two men are practicing Christians or not. I know journalists who run the gamut from fundamentalist Christians to atheists.

During a discussion we had at Church a few months back, we discussed how lying is a sin, however is it ever permissible to lie.

Priests during WWII used to hide Jews in the Church and in their monasteries. When the Nazi's would come and ask them specifically if they were hiding Jews, the priests would lie and say no. Well, lying is a sin, but is it more of a sin to not have lied and allowed the Nazi's to take the Jews to what would most likely have been their deaths?

I've heard neither Centanni or Olaf state that their conversion was true in anyway. In fact, Centanni was very descriptive in explaining how they were under the gun for most of their imprisonment and forced to make the video's.

Muslims can believe it's a true conversion all they want. It won't be the first time they twist the truth to suit their own needs.
745 posted on 08/27/2006 7:10:48 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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