Posted on 08/27/2006 12:41:00 AM PDT by Crazieman
Per Fox News
I'm reminded of the Spanish bishops, priests, nuns, and laity who went to their executions in the Spanish Civil War, shouting:
Viva Christo Rey!
Lord, give us courage and grace, because it's coming to America.
But when you accept Islam publicly, you deny that Christ IS your Saviour. In Islam, he's just another prophet.
"He who denies me before men, him will I deny before My Father."
I understand you're arguement so I will make mine very clear. Would you have then allowed the terrorists to behead you based on that statement?
Christ is forgiving.
I hope so.
Hi there, Pod, sweetie! I am so glad to see you too! CPAC next year?
Didn't realize my comments were off topic on "your" thread.
Thanks Sue. Just hope DC Patriot doesn't get his panties in a bigger bunch ;)
;^)
Don't misunderstand me - I'm not a particularly brave person, and in that situation, what little courage I have might fail me, and I could well end up groveling at their feet, promising to say anything if only they wouldn't kill me.
But my DESIRE is to die before denying Christ.
I understand that, I also have a love for Christ. But under the circumstance, agree with these idiots for a few minutes or end up on a video having you're head cut off. I think my family would want me more. These people are savages and you CANNOT bargain with them. If it was you or I, wouldn't we be better served at home with our families and not having our heads sliced off for on video for all to see?
LOL I'll tiptoe softly then ;)
You are so right, I still don't understand how Steve would have said that he has the utmost respect for Islam after going through that. Why can't they just say it like it is??? Because I sure hope he doesn't really mean it.
Absolutely NOT. My courage may fail me if it comes to it, but denying Christ is NEVER the right choice. You seem to have made the choice in advance that it's okay. I wouldn't care to make that explanation to Him myself.
People die untimely all the time - I'd rather have my nieces and nephews know that I died upstanding in my beliefs than that I denied them so I could live just a little longer.
I like to think that I'd taunt the muslims by asking them if they were going to use a sharp blade as commanded in the koran, but I probably wouldn't have the presence of mind.
By Ray Boltz:
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
With all my strength
With all I am
I will seek to honor His commands
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
I have heard how Christians long ago
Were brought before a tyrant’s throne
They were told that he would spare their lives
If they would renounce the name of Christ
But one by one they chose to die
The Son of God they would not deny
Like a great angelic choir sings
I can almost hear their voices ring
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
With all my strength
With all I am
I will seek to honor His commands
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
Now the years have come and the years have gone
And the cause of Jesus still goes on
Now our time has come to count the cost
To reject this world, to embrace the Cross
And one by one let us live our lives
For the One who died to give us life
Till the trumpet sounds on the final day
Let us proudly stand and boldly say
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
With all my strength
With all I am
I will seek to honor His commands
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
To the Lamb of God who bore my pain
Who took my place who wore my shame
I will seek to honor His commands
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
With all my strength
With all I am
I will seek to honor His commands
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
To deny Christ is never easy. I wonder what you would have asked Nick Berg and all the others right before their beheadings. But you are soo much more Christian than I.
"People die untimely all the time" is what you said. Really Nina0113? Do people have their eyes cut out, their tatt's skinned off and their private parts cut off while they are screaming for their mothers. But you are so much stronger in you're beliefs. People like you really piss me off since you obviously have no clue at all!
"He who denies me before men, him will I deny before My Father."
Christ's Word.. amen
I'm with everything you just said...
What will really get me is if he does not denounce his conversion. If he does not, maybe he feels he can use it to his benefit now that he is 'their brother'. (which will really make me sick).
Thank you - good points all. Of course, I am so relieved to have them safe and wish both of them only the best.
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