Posted on 08/26/2006 8:07:24 PM PDT by Mount Athos
The federal government has barred two relatives of a Lodi man convicted of supporting terrorists from returning to the country after a lengthy stay in Pakistan, placing the U.S. citizens in an extraordinary legal limbo.
Muhammad Ismail, a 45-year-old naturalized citizen born in Pakistan, and his 18-year-old son, Jaber Ismail, who was born in the United States, have not been charged with a crime. However, they are the uncle and cousin of Hamid Hayat, a 23-year-old Lodi cherry packer who was convicted in April of supporting terrorists by attending a Pakistani training camp.
Federal authorities said Friday that the men, both Lodi residents, would not be allowed back into the country unless they agreed to FBI interrogations in Pakistan. An attorney representing the family said agents have asked whether the younger Ismail trained in terrorist camps in Pakistan.
The men and three relatives had been in Pakistan for more than four years and tried to return to the United States on April 21 as a federal jury in Sacramento deliberated Hayat's fate. But they were pulled aside during a layover in Hong Kong and told there was a problem with their passports, said Julia Harumi Mass, their attorney.
The father and son were forced to pay for a flight back to Islamabad because they were on the government's "no-fly" list, Mass said. Muhammad Ismail's wife, teenage daughter and younger son, who were not on the list, continued on to the United States.
Neither Muhammad nor Jaber Ismail holds dual Pakistani citizenship, Mass said.
"We haven't heard about this happening -- U.S. citizens being refused the right to return from abroad without any charges or any basis," said Mass, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union.
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Perhaps they should take a boat? They can't FLY into the USA or anywhere inside the country.
The very first line of the article says they are relatives of someone CONVICTED in Lodi of helping terrorists!!! That's how they got on the "no fly" list I would suspect...
scram mohammed
Presidents Lincoln and Roosevelt thought otherwise and the USSC agreed.
They declared almost unanimously the nearly unlimited use of force!!! You are gittin all het up over nuthin!!!
If there were charges they would be in Gitmo or HCSD. There were "suspicions and reasons" and they declined to be interviewed.
No Charges=No Detention
And if you will not answer why you want in my house=GO AWAY
All they had to do was answer some interrogative questions.
The safety of America is at stake. Ask as many questions as you want
If they are already on the no-fly list, it would seem some due process has already occurred and this is not simply the work of one government servant. Don't forget the defense is free to say whatever they want but the government does not have the same luxury in, especially in national security cases, won't let out details even if they could. We're not getting the full story yet, nor should we at this time.
You've got to be bigot for pointing out such blatant facts.
Since the ACLU is involved, don't ever let them back!
Tell that to George Takei, and a whole heaping, helping of other Japanese Americans.
Answer to your question: none of your business.
I don't remember posting a question to you however I might have clicked on post reply in the wrong spot.
Question pleae: Does your wife satisfy you sexually?
No I am divorced, single and love it. The Gal I date wants to change it but I'm fine here.
Have you ever driven after drinking alcohol?
No I drink at home if I ever drink.
Can you please email me a picture of your children?
Is your photo album that large, I have 9. Send me an email address and I'll fill your album
I mean, as long as we have nothing to hide, than no biggie, right?
And no sir I have nothing to hide. I am what I am and I call em as I see em and if I offended you while responding to another poster (hit the wrong post reply button) I apologize
You cannot be serious. The legal definition of the term "due process" means precisely the opposite of what you are suggesting. Did you possibly mean "due diligence?"
Screw That!!!
And who also TOLD the FBI that the younger one, at least, had attended the SAME TRAINING CAMP THAT HE HAD.
Just odd to me, is that the kid, at 14, had to go to Pakistan to 'study the Koranus' for 4 years, when there is an Islamic Center etc in Lodi, that would have been overjoyed to teach him.
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