Posted on 08/26/2006 7:28:21 PM PDT by GOPsupporterFL
Poll indicates Crist-Gallagher race tightening
A Florida chamber poll has Crist's lead down to 10 points, with 29 percent of voters undecided in the GOP gubernatorial race.
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In all fairness you meant Gallagher, not Crist but that's just a typo. Thank you. That was a rare flash of honesty, followed immediately by another lie. Are you now telling us that you have access to Gallagher's internal polls????
You vote for Clinton too??
With all due respect, it is you who is uninformed. I am not a trial lawyer. Just for the record, the most "anti-trial lawyer" group in the state (the Florida Medical Association) has endorsed Charlie Crist.
As for the quote, "I'm fine with it," that was with respect to civil unions, NOT gay adoption. Crist OPPOSES gay adoption. If you can provide a link to the contrary, please do so.
He opposed the bullet train and the class size amendment when they were originally proposed. He says now that he supports implementing the class size amendment in order to comply with the will of the electorate. Is that a bad stance? Should he instead say that he will defy the will of the electorate and refuse to implement the constitutional amendment?
I read up on the $5K/year adoption plan. I don't know what the financial impact would be, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it. The people who adopt foster children out of the kindness of their hearts are doing the state a huge service, and I'm sure that $5K/year is a drop in the bucket of the actual cost of adopting a child. I find it hard to believe that thieves and con artists would begin adopting children to pilfer $5K/year from the state, as has been implied by posters on this board.
Crist is a very strong fiscal conservative, and this has ALWAYS been the case. He is more moderate on several social issues, which have been discussed ad nauseam. I just think he is more honest than Gallagher, whose personal life is filled with adultery, drug use, day trading on public time, and ethical scandals (for which he currently under investigation). You have your preference, and I have mine. I'm willing to give up a 100% conservative record on social issues in exchange for a candidate who doesn't have the personal baggage that Tom Gallagher has. You seem very focused on several social issues and are basing your decision on that, which is fine. I'm not asking you to change your mind on supporting Gallagher, but you've shown no respect for those of us Republicans who support Crist (which is far more than those who support Gallagher based on the polls.)
You're dishonest and manipulative.
Your "chart," made by yourself shows some of Gallagher's positions in 1994 and are very distorted from even his record then.
Here's a side by side for you:
www.tg2006.com/pdf/comparison.pdf
This link you posted is correct, but outdated. It is correct in that Charlie Crist said CIVIL UNIONS "are fine," NOT gay adoption (as you previously posted) or gay marriage. He also said that he had not decided about gay adoption, because he "hadn't given it a lot of thought." He later gave an interview that after fully contemplating the issue, he OPPOSES gay adoption. This is position he has espoused consistently throughout the debates.
They just hate it when you confront them with facts. They swear a Reagan Rebublican would never do that to a RINO.
I provided you with three links citing a radio interview in which he said he's open to gay adoption. Contrary to your baseless claims that he refuted this in the debate, he did not.
NICE SPIN ON THE "MOST ANTI TRIAL LAWYER GROUP." They are also a most liberal group in Florida, second only within the field of medicine to the Florida Chapter of the APA.
I see you have no clue with regard to fiscal restraint and to set the record straight he took no active stance on the bullet train or the class size ammendment before they were voted in. He didn't even campaign against the slot machines even though one would think that the AG would speak out against a crimewave boondoggle.
You are clueless on the ramifications of the 5k per year per adopted kid. No, the problem isn't that it would cause theives to adopt on mass (though there would no dount be some who would adopt three kids, spend 7K total on them in meager conditions and collect 15). It is a reckless proposal that would cost billions and would necessitate taxes, especially after all the other spending iniatives he'd push through.
Your man is no fiscal conservative and in this regard too is a liar who yells at the top of his lungs about his supposed conservative credentials all the while advocating positions that would make Ted Kennedy drunk without whiskey.
Are you saying that a two faced charlatan stands a chance with the electorate? Not once Davis exposes him for the louse that he is should our party have the misfortune of having this liberal, lying twit as our nominee.
Interesting how your guy was ahead of Davis UNTIL he started airing commercials (Gallagher still is ahead FYI).
Please see this. The NewsMax endorsement came from Chris Ruddy, a friend of Crist and greatly embellished Crist's record. He's said he's open to gay adoption, is condescendingly for "civil" unions ('I have an open mind and a live and let live attitude' said the little man on the big screen as he sniffled away the hours)and has proposed ideas that are so fiscally reckless even Democrats would vote against them.
A must see:
www.tg2006.com/pdf/comparison.pdf
His promise of things he knows would never pass, like $5,000 per adopted child every single year, show him to be dishonest. Davis would harpoon him with it should he be given the chance.
This primary will decide whether the Republican Party of Florida remains a conservative party or falls under the control of those who advocate anything at any cost.
I see that as well as being a brilliant political analyst, so up to date on the issues that you'd put a caveman to shame, YOU ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ.
I didn't say he's for gay marriage. He's not. It's not popular enough. He only supports whatever's popular.
What I WAS SAYING in the post you MISREAD was that you guys don't know the difference between gay "marriage" and gay "adoption." He came out against gay MARRIAGE in the debate, not gay ADOPTION (not that we can believe a word he says anyway, but we're talking about what he said, so....)
Your guy went on the radio and said he's open to gay adoption. Deal with it!
What's more, he did that this year, not in 1994, the year that Gallagher was for certain taxes - something else Charlie supported over the years, although unlike Gallagher he doesn't say he was wrong and matured, he just flat out denies it.
Charlie Crist is such an OUTRAGEOUS LIAR (Ronald Reagan Republican my ass) he makes BAGHDAD BOB look credible and GOEBBELS look reserved.
Davis will be the next Governor of FL and Nelson will win re-election hendily, testimony to the disgusting and incompetent leadership of the Fl. state GOP.
The fact that he lies is bad enough. That his supporters feel the need to lie for him.... I don't know what to say.
Cristitis?
A disease whose symptoms include out of control sniffling except when it's your turn to speak, followed by out of control, tourrettes style lying.
I gave three links, not one
He said
- it's not a central part of my campaign
- I have an open mind to it (on a progressive radio station)
I've already shown you that the guy's a reckless spender which would inevitably raise taxes. You say you support him because he's a fiscal conservative. As I've shown you he's nothing of the sort. He is a liar though and does claim to be a social and fiscal conservative. His penchant for lying would hurt him should he have the misfortune of winning the primary. It's time for you to help us stop this turd from ruining our party.
Good point..solid support for Gallagher here on Sand Key..
New SurveyUSA poll:
Crist 60, Gallagher 29, Undecided 8
These numbers are more in line with previous polls.
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportPopup.aspx?g=85912e2c-e998-446a-bd30-3bd9bfc9bbd4&q=28609
Crist 60%, Gallagher 31%, Undecided 8%
Margin of error - 4.7%
The undecided margin is in contrast to all polls. The sample must have been concentrated in Miami and Pinellas. I'm not saying it's not a good poll, just very skeptical as it is different in many ways from almost all other previous polls.
Did some more checking. It is from a conglomerate of liberal TV stations - WFLA-TV Tampa, WKRG-TV Pensacola, WPTV-TV West Palm Beach, and WTLV-TV Jacksonville
I'm not saying it's not accurate as I can never say that for sure. I'm just saying it doesn't fit with other polls in the race which have always shown huge undecideds, including the one out that was taken over the same days.
Either way, please don't vote for this liar. He's no fiscal conservative and no social conservative. If you and I and every other Republican who can send a message that we won't willingly allow a takeover of the party by those whose positions on the issues are in lockstep with the Republican Party of Rhode Island we can save conservatism in FL.
And after his flip-flops we're not winning an election with Charlie.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51709
(Crist's legacy, the death of an innocent woman whose civil rights were denied by none other than Charlie Crist.)
World Net Daily's Editor urges Floridians to VOTE FOR TOM GALLAGHER. (sounds like an endorsement to me).
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51709
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