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To: dayglored
No, the SCOTUS did not ignore Jefferson - - they deliberately took a handful of his words out of context and perverted them. I suggest that you check out ENGEL v. VITALE (the case which started the decades-long attack on that pesky second clause of the 1st Amendment) where you will read the following passage:

"The petitioners contend among other things that the state laws requiring or permitting use of the Regents' prayer must be struck down as a violation of the Establishment Clause because that prayer was composed by governmental officials as a part of a governmental program to further religious beliefs. For this reason, petitioners argue, the State's use of the Regents' prayer in its public school system breaches the constitutional wall of separation between Church and State. We agree with that contention since we think that the constitutional prohibition against laws respecting an establishment of religion must at least mean that in this country it is no part of the business of government to compose official prayers for any group of the American people to recite as a part of a religious program carried on by government."

See how "government.... composing official prayers" has been perverted by the athiests of the ACLU and their Democrat brethren into the sick attack on American tradition and values (and even the Boy Scouts!) that we see today? Kids are being sent home for wearing crucixes; honors graduates are being told they are not allowed to make religious references in their graduation speeches; high school football players are told not to huddle in a pre-game prayer; decades-old public monuments are suddenly ruled unacceptable and ordered removed. Etc.

It's plain sick.

19 posted on 08/26/2006 10:07:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Jefferson nevers put anything as "golden". He second guessed himself and others continuously. He held slaves while at the same time saying that it was a "bad thing". That's Jefferson!!

Jefferson on Religion?? In Southern vernacular: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn".

116 posted on 09/01/2006 11:50:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Lancey Howard; Amendment10; dayglored
No man may become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion.

Some of these liberaltarians forget, it is THEY who advocate “separation of church and state.” Let's cram it right back down their throats...

It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made “separation of church and state” a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices.

Now, it ain't so palatable to them, is it? They are the ones here bashing the religious folks, now they want to claim some mercurial, ever changing definition of freedom of religion? I'm not going to live in their hell...

If I cannot yell “fire” in a crowded theater, I don't think someone should be able to light one with a U.S. flag and call it “free speech.”

Of course, a lot of these traitors to the United States would also whine if we wanted an Amendment to ban homosexual marriage or flag burning, wouldn't they?

There are doctrinaire, myopic cultural Marxists whose only purpose here on FreeRepublic is their polemic need to do anything contrary to the Christians. You will find most of them on the homosexual issue threads, the evolution threads, drug threads, genetic engineering threads or any other issue involving a perversion of, or attack on the Judaic book of Genesis.

The very idea that human beings have individual rights not subject to the whims of an earthly monarch, but subject to the laws of Yahweh, is directly from Moses.

Historically, this is proven over and over again with the successive conflicts between the forces of paganism and the Judaic culture. (This includes the idolatry of cultural Marxist paganism.)

A greater number of "atheists" and "pagans" adopt the same hackneyed tenets of a faux Judaic-Christian ideal (golden calf). They also subscribe to the Judaic fetishism of "sin," but will fight to their death in denial of it.

Most of them are so wrapped up in their own polemics that they have become nothing more than pathetic anti-Christians with the same false hypocritical philosophy. They just slap a new label on it hoping nobody will notice - - they replace the idea of "avoiding sin" with "morals."

Morality and all of its associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior. Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.

Mosaic Law (of which the Ten Commandments is just a part) is the foundation of Western Civilization. Genesis is the primary focus of the Declaration of Independence, from where our Constitutional rights are derived. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of our judicial system.

Moses wrote Genesis. This is why such people will jump up and down screaming when the Ten Commandments are displayed or the Creationist idea of monogamy from the book of Genesis is introduced.

135 posted on 09/01/2006 6:56:25 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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