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To: jla
> ...thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State...

He probably reflected on the fact that nothing on Earth is truly eternal... and as long as people wish to inflict their religious beliefs on others, and as long as governments have power, then there will be religious people who use the power of government to inflict their beliefs on others. It is the triumph of the U.S. Constitution that it has so far put up a good fight against those never-ceasing and dangerous movements.

110 posted on 08/31/2006 9:29:31 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
For whatever he meant he certainly did not intend for religion or religious themes to be expunged from public environs. If this was so he'd have voiced an opinion on it. He, or even any of the Constitution's framers, seemed to have had any objections to religious displays, or the Bible being present at public functions.
His main objection arose from the way the British Anglican Church wielded it's authority in the colonies prior to the Revolutionary War., although Mr. J wasn't either too pleased with some priests and bishops he encountered in Catholic France who more or less led their flocks more from tyranny than brotherly love.

TJ most assuredly believed in God, i.e., the God of Moses. Where he had doubts, I believe, was in man's behavior towards God and His laws.

Is it any wonder our nation's two greatest Presidents were lovers of the land, (and horses), who chose to live on mountaintops.

111 posted on 08/31/2006 9:48:08 PM PDT by jla
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To: dayglored

You're not being honest with yourself dayglored.

As I've mentioned elsewhere, the Bill of Rights was flawed with respect to the 10th Amendment not having any checks. The post Civil War 14th Amendment was intended to check the 10th, the 10th likewise checking the 14th. The problem is that crooked secular judges are now taking advantage of widespread constitutional ignorance by ignoring the 10th so the 14th essentially has no checks.


114 posted on 09/01/2006 11:29:50 AM PDT by Amendment10
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