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Stunningly Naive
Human Events Online ^ | 25 August 2006 | Oliver North

Posted on 08/25/2006 9:31:05 AM PDT by unionblue83

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1 posted on 08/25/2006 9:31:05 AM PDT by unionblue83
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To: Convert from ECUSA; Zionist Conspirator; Sabramerican; F15Eagle; Salem; sheik yerbouty; ...

ping.


2 posted on 08/25/2006 9:31:48 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: unionblue83

Stunningly naive describes most on the left. I fear that Bush may not take appropriate action to deny Iran nukes because he will not likely have support from the UN Security Council and most of our allies, much less Russia and China. Also, the MSM doesn't seem to see the threat posed by Radical Islam and Iran's leaders.


3 posted on 08/25/2006 9:37:14 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: unionblue83
Washington is stunningly naive

Correction.... "The Western world Washington is stunningly naive!"

4 posted on 08/25/2006 9:37:58 AM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: unionblue83
While it's true that there are many in Washington who are "stunningly naive," Col. North's column doesn't make a convincing case for it.

His real point, apparently, is buried down at the bottom -- basically, "don't elect cut-and-runners" in November. And he's right about that.

But he misses the point rather badly. The "cut-and-runners'" problem is far more pernicious than mere naivete. It's a single-minded will to power that borders on insanity.

5 posted on 08/25/2006 9:42:27 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: unionblue83

Dar-al-Islam under the Dhimmicrats. Coming to a neighborhood near you if they are elected.


6 posted on 08/25/2006 9:43:54 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Also, the MSM doesn't seem to see the threat posed by Radical Islam and Iran's leaders.

They see it, they just choose not to report it.

7 posted on 08/25/2006 9:44:32 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: unionblue83

Stunningly naive and/or stunningly afraid (of the media) to take a stand anymore. It's bi-partisan in Washington.


8 posted on 08/25/2006 9:48:13 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: unionblue83
""The world is at the brink of a cataclysm with radical Islam, and no one in the U.S. government seems to know it."

More like, no one wants to know it...or at least no one wants to admit it. That wouldn't be politically correct, and everyone knows that political correctness is more important than national, or even global, security. < /sarcasm > Not to mention, if they admitted it, they'd have to back it up and you could lay every "leader" in Washington side by side and still not have a backbone between them.

9 posted on 08/25/2006 9:49:04 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile!)
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Washington knows it but it's more important to impeach Bush and take over the Congress. They are not asleep or naive, but more like egocentric and stupid. I read an article here on Free Republic that said that the crazy leader of Iran would sacrifice half the people of his country to wipe out Israel. I suggest that the American leftist would be happy to sacrifice half of us to get rid of Bush and take over Congress.
10 posted on 08/25/2006 9:51:14 AM PDT by fish hawk (Terror : in a cave in Afghanistan. Treason: in a cave-in , in the Democratic Party)
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To: CommandoFrank
Don't know about the entire West, by Western Lefties are most certainly naive! They use islamonazis as a battering ram to get to the power. Not so much they want a genuine win for islamists, as the genuine loss for the "capitalism". And when they are in power they will take care of the muslim problem....

By then, unfortunately, there will be a huge war in which ultimate survival of the western civilization is not assured at all.

Lefties think that the choice we face is between capitalism and socialism. In reality, it's between western civilization and sharia and, if their work is successful, they will get sharia.
11 posted on 08/25/2006 9:53:56 AM PDT by alecqss
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"Hezbollah gives immediate relief to help Lebanese rebuild." An accompanying photograph shows a "Hezbollah official" dispensing $12,000 in brand new U.S. $50 and $100 bills to "victims of Israeli destruction."

Ihave wondered from the first time I heard that Hezbollah is distributing counterfeit dollars obtained from North Korea.

12 posted on 08/25/2006 9:54:11 AM PDT by monocle
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I think the biggest trap for us right at the moment is to blame this on the President. IMO, he is VERY aware of the threat, but without the backing of the rest of the country and congress, he does not have the political capital he needs to get the job done.

It was bad enough when the left and msm attacked him constantly, but when the right wet their pants, took their eye off the ball and ran whining down the field, they left him completely powerless.

Watching the self-obsessed far right and the approval-seeking rino faction abandon the President on this issue has been one of the greatest disappointments of my lifetime.

13 posted on 08/25/2006 9:54:28 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: unionblue83

Ollie North nails it!


14 posted on 08/25/2006 9:58:36 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: unionblue83

"The world is at the brink of a cataclysm with radical Islam, and no one in the U.S. government seems to know it. Washington is stunningly naive."


When all our leaders parrot the PC mantra of "Islam is a religion of Peace", to state that Washington is "stunningly naive" is sort of like stating that the flag is red, white and blue. It's pretty obvious.


15 posted on 08/25/2006 10:02:36 AM PDT by monday
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The government knows exactly what our world is facing in the fanatical Islamic regimes. Why do you think we went into Iraq? Sadam is gone and we now have a toe-hold in the middle east right next door to Iran. Our fighting men and women are right between Iran and Israel. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et. al. know what they are doing!

The real question is do the American people know what we are facing? I don't think most do and most are just not ready to hear it.


16 posted on 08/25/2006 10:03:07 AM PDT by freemama
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Over on another thread here the author is quoted as complaining - rightly - about another author's use of the word "catastrophe" to describe the US involvement in Iraq.

Here's the other side of the abuse of language in this debate: describing the current phase of what's certainly going to be a long-term policy of containment toward medieval Islamic obscurism as a "cataclysm".

Conveniently, the nature of this cataclysm is unstated, it's just darkly implied that the speaker knows what it must be, and what we ought to be doing to avoid it.

IMO this is all too often the nature of the apocalyptic predictions I'm seeing thrown about - assertions that we are in the throes "of World War III" or a titanic struggle with "Islamofascism", without any description of what this really means or any realistic policy prescription for what we ought to do about it.

In fact it appears to me that the current upsurge of the Islamic fervor in the Middle East is just the latest example of an attempt by societies poorly adapted to the modern world to find an "ism" (see: "pan Arab nationalism", "Arab socialism") which somehow squares Theocratic truth and guidance and tribal and clan organization with the need to function in a wider world which has largely transcended both.

And that really there is very little we can do about this other than reduce our financial contribution to the project, set limits on its behavior toward other cultures and societies, try whenever possible to non-confrontationally offer alternatives, and await its inevitable evolution toward a more humane and pragmatic set of arrangements.

And frankly, I doubt that there's anything "cataclysmic" we can do about it, other than to suppose that an effort to enforce our opinions and preferences in the matter by force can have much direct and lasting effect on the beliefs and attitudes of a quarter billion people on the other side of the planet.

17 posted on 08/25/2006 10:07:37 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Bush may not take appropriate action to deny Iran nukes because he will not likely have support from the UN Security Council and most of our allies, much less Russia and China.

It's even closer. The Pres works for the Senate. If the Senate wants to do this then the Pres will proceed. But the Senate does not want to do this, so he can't very well go ahead on his own. He is the Pres, not the Dictator.

18 posted on 08/25/2006 10:10:24 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: unionblue83

INTREP


19 posted on 08/25/2006 10:37:11 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I deeply fear we will not truly respons to Islam until one or more US cites is taken out with atomic bombs. I fear it will happen.


20 posted on 08/25/2006 10:42:17 AM PDT by kjo
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