Here we go again. Every Rudy thread should have a BARF alert attached to it.
Barf or not...he's gonna win.
Nuff said.
NONONONOOooo
too late sob
Now someone will post "chorus girl" Rudy in drag again.
I hope you're proud of having posted this...
EXACTLY.
Yeah. Giuliani's a raving liberal nut but he'll probably nominate conservative strict constructionist judges.
The sad thing is some people will actually believe that.
These Giuliani threads are like Civil War, Intelligent Design, and Howard Stern threads all rolled into one.
They're a hoot!
If Hillary is on the Democrat Party ticket,
then my vote goes to Rudy.
No regrets.
I could live with Giuliani if I can be convinced that he'll appoint conservative federal judges and will rein in federal spending. If I really believed he would do those things, his position on gay marriage wouldn't bother me. (Not sure about the gun control matter.)
"Allen was formerly married to Anne Patrice Rubel until their divorce in 1983. Allen married Susan Brown in 1986..."
He didn't look good to me last year, the year before, or now.
He's a liberal and if the Republicans are hell bent on joining the Democrats in total irrelevance a few years hence, they will nominate the stooge and get what they deserve.
he deserves a fair hearing in our primaries, that's what they are for. let the people decide.
all I can tell you is - the turnaround of NYC, was hardly a "RINO" event. Rudy did things that national republicans wouldn't dare do at the federal level - taking on the ACLU in court to deal with their thwarting of police practices needed to cut crime and deal with the homeless, cutting taxes to revive businesses, using aggressive laws to root the porn industry out of manhattan, reforming city agencies, going after the national endowment for the arts for their anti-catholic museum exhibits, and a huge list of other real accomplishments. and his 9-11 performance on top of that.
everyone has the right to dislike Rudy for other issues, that's their own choice. but he wasn't some "do nothing" republican as mayor.
and I really don't give a damn if he wore a dress as a gag during a charity event. the same people trashing him for that, don't say a word about the Bushes (Laura included) performances at some of the washington press dinners over the years.
NOOOOOOOOO! NOT ANOTHER RUDY THREAD!!!!
Now there is some serious irony!
The Rudy haters have company:
The Village Voice, CBS,NBC and David Dinkins think Rudy would be a horrible choice....That's why I think he'll win.
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm
We conservatives have a whole lot of work ahead of us, in getting the best conservative candidate secured as the GOP`s nominee for 2008. However, Giuliani is not that candidate. His social positions place him in the same catagory as Clinton, Gore and Carter. Its common knowledge that Giuliani is pro-abortion, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-gun control and supports special right for homos and illegals. And Giuliani`s fiscal record of leaving NYCity with a $2-billion deficit and a $42-billion debt is definitely not something akin to fiscal responsibility. In addition, Giuliani's embarrassing private life and obvious political opportunism will not sit well with the vast majority of conservatives and probably not with most Americans either.
I'd say Giuliani has a long way to go convincing conservatives he's one of us and for good reason. Giulaini is not a conservative, he's a liberal. Period. Should Republicans choose Giulaini to be the nominee, the GOP will fracture into two camps, conservatives and the status quo. Lets not make that mistake. Since 1980 the GOP has nominated only pro-life candidates for Prez, while the GOP platform has been conservative to its core.
Giulaini is far out of the conservative mainstream and isn't what the Republican Party needs in 2008.
The Republicans crossed the divorcee rubicon with Ronald Reagan. It's not the issue it would have been 30 years ago.
If you gave me a field of McCain, Giuliani, Allen, Gingrich and Romney, my reaction would be:
"Is that the best we've got???"
Sadly, yes it may be. There's been no conservative to the right of Bush who isn't either damaged goods or seemingly incapable of building some national momentum. The Rove RINO-majority Senate has put most of conservatism on the backburner while spending like drunken liberals.
If there was a Reagan running in 2008, we could mop the floor with what's out there in both parties. Alas, the GOP has effectively marginalized itself from promoting a truly strong and conservative voice.
I am, however, looking forward to the first GOP ticket in over 30 years that doesn't have a Bush or a Dole on it.
Rudy can look great all he wants but he's not going to sell with those morals here in the South. Neither will the likes of Gingrich.
We've seen what you get when you give public figures a pass on morality. We don't want to see it again.