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Rudy Still Looking Good, a Year Later
Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2006 | Lorie Byrd

Posted on 08/25/2006 9:23:43 AM PDT by veronica

As it now appears a 2008 Rudy run is a sure thing, I thought it was about time to update that column to take a look at how Rudy is looking right about now, almost a full year later. The event that inspired my previous column on Giuliani’s presidential qualities was the response to Hurricane Katrina. The anniversary of the record breaking storm is only days away and provides another reminder of one of the reasons Rudy Giuliani is considered one of the top contenders for the GOP nomination.

Giuliani touches down in three states Tuesday, attending events for Hutchinson, Illinois gubernatorial hopeful Judy Baer Topinka, and Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum. Giuliani, who has topped several national 2008 presidential polls in recent months, was to headlined a cocktail reception in Cleveland Monday for two-term Sen. Mike DeWine. (AP Photo/Mike Wintroath) Katrina showed America what an inept response to a national emergency looked like. They had seen, four years earlier, what a competent response to a national emergency looked like when Mayor Giuliani took control, led recovery efforts and calmed a nation in shock. His performance earned him Time’s 2001 designation as Man of the Year and the title of“Mayor of the World.” He was even crowned an honorary knight by Queen Elizabeth in recognition of the service he performed.

In reaction to the deficiencies of the Katrina response, Americans let it be known that they want a President who is engaged in the details when disaster strikes. In the aftermath of 9/11, President Bush was able to provide moral and, even spiritual, leadership and leave the specifics of the recovery effort to people like Mayor Giuliani. Katrina taught us that when a Mayor Nagin, not a Mayor Giuliani, is in charge, the chief executive better step in right away and make things work – or he better at least give the appearance that he is doing that.

A year ago, in the immediate aftermath of Katrina, especially in contrast to the politicians who had just failed so miserably, Rudy Giuliani looked really good. At the time I said he looked downright presidential. A year later, as we observe the one year anniversary of Katrina and, in two weeks observe the five year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, he looks even better.

Giuliani is leading early polls in Iowa and is even being well received in the very important primary state of South Carolina, in spite of his Yankee status. There are still some pitfalls for Giuliani, but nothing that did not exist a year ago, or even a decade ago. Although there are most likely some GOP primary voters who are not aware of all of Giuliani’s positions, it is unlikely that voters will be particularly shocked by them.

Giuliani’s positions on abortion, gay marriage and gun control have not changed in the past year (at least not so far as the public has been informed) but the emphasis that is likely to be placed on those issues may have. There are some voters who will never vote for a President Giuliani due to his position on abortion, or gay rights. The confirmation of Supreme Court Justices Roberts and Alito, though, may have reminded voters that one of the main ways executives affect public policy on such issues is through court appointments.

Through President Bush’s judicial appointments over the past five years, public attention has been focused on the importance of the judiciary, compared to that of the executive, in deciding such issues. Instead of the specifics of Giuliani’s positions on abortion or gay rights or gun control, the focus is likely to be on what kind of judges he would appoint and what their positions are on cases involving those issues.

Another criticism of Giuliani is the subject of his past marital troubles. Those on the left crying Republican hypocrisy for giving Giuliani a pass after criticizing Bill Clinton for his “bimbo eruptions,” and later impeaching him, are particularly peculiar. Evidently many Democrats today don’t see any distinction between the case of Giuliani and that of Bill Clinton.

The case against Giuliani is one of marital infidelity. The case against Bill Clinton includes, among other things, a parade of women claiming sexual harassment, multiple women claiming to have been harassed by private eyes working on behalf of the Clintons, one woman claiming rape, and evidence (including his own words on tape) that he used his influence to get state jobs for women with whom he had affairs. Of course, everyone remembers Clinton’s affair with an intern just a few years older than his daughter, in the Oval Office, meeting with her more times than some members of his cabinet and conducting dozens of phone-sex calls with her setting up a blackmail security threat scenario usually reserved for Tom Clancy novels, then trying to smear her as a lying psycho stalker until the infamous blue dress appeared.

I could continue and even eventually get into the actions that led to the articles of impeachment, but it is not necessary. To witness the complete confusion of Democrats who cannot see the difference in the two cases is to see the incredible legacy Bill Clinton left his party. Even an affair and messy divorce look good in comparison to that. Another reason I don’t see Giuliani’s past marital problems as dashing his presidential aspirations, though, has nothing to do with Democrats, but rather with those he would likely face in a GOP primary.

As Kate O’Beirne pointed out recently, “Should Mitt Romney join a 2008 race that included John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich and George Allen, the only guy in the GOP field with only one wife would be the Mormon."

Events between now and November 2008 will determine which issues ultimately play the biggest role in voters’ choice for President. Over the next two weeks, though, as Americans observe the anniversaries of Katrina and 9/11, the issues of leadership in times of crisis and how best to fight the war on terror will make for an excellent opportunity for Rudy Giuliani to shine.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hesgonnawin; justsayno; rino; rinorudygohome; rudy; rudyforpresident; rudypoo; tuttirudi
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To: veronica

Oh please, it'll all bubble over and nobody will care. Reagan made a crude joke about italians during the primary and the media jumped all over him for it as did his opponents. A few weeks later nobody cared.


181 posted on 08/26/2006 1:13:01 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Spiff

Don't you love how the rinos on free republic accuse the conservatives of being DU trolls?


182 posted on 08/26/2006 1:13:44 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Spiff
Rudy is a conservative just not a social conservative. I'm tired of social conservatives stiff-arming of the libertarian/conservatives issues. I'd like to see some emphasis on tax reform, tort reform, vouchers, entitlement reform, border control,articulating the benefits of a smaller government. Leadership ability in case of another 9/11. The whole God, gays...guns stuff ...instead of competent day to day conservative governance won't work in this election cycle. Why is it that someone is alleged to be a fiscal conservative that he is somehow considered an actual conservative. Conservatism has a lot more to it than just the alleged ability to by somewhat conscious about government spending and taxation. If conservatism was a crime that Rudy was charged with, the judge would throw the case out of court for lack of evidence. Go shill for the cross dressing, pro-abortion, pro-radical gay agenda, pro-gun grabbing, pro-Democrat LIBERAL somewhere else.

Do you remember that quote that mcclintock had on california supposed republicans? I can't remember it but it was something like "i don't know how people can claim to be both socially liberal and fiscally conservative. how are you a fiscal conservative when you advocate social programs that would grow the size of government". I wish i could find it.

183 posted on 08/26/2006 1:16:51 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: muleskinner

Theres a difference, allen's has a divorce yes, but rudy had numerous illicit affairs. Allen did not, his first wife wanted a divorce because she didn't want to be a political wife, much like Reagan's first wife.


184 posted on 08/26/2006 1:20:28 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: veronica; NapkinUser
Rudy is Conservative enough to have served in the Reagan Justice Dept.,

Yea he's so conservative. if i recall jim webb is such a conservative that he was reagan's secnav...

185 posted on 08/26/2006 1:22:09 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP
Maybe Allen could hook up with Bill Clinton and go on an apology tour.

Or maybe he could start apologizing for apologizing but either way the Washington Post and Webb punked Allen and he fell for it.
It shows that he's a phony cowboy who should be kept with the rest of the big spenders in the senate and kept far far away from the presidency.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401420_2.html
186 posted on 08/26/2006 1:28:56 PM PDT by Blackirish (I'm George Allen and I apologize.)
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To: Blackirish
"There are an estimated 140 million guns currently in the US do you actually think that any president even has the power to be a "gun grabber"?"

Not in a 100% literalistic tone. But does anyone really doubt Guilani would hesitate for one second to sign another assault weapons ban? Would he have signed the bill Bush signed earlier this year to help stop frivolous lawsuits against legal gun manufactures that sell their products legally? That's tort reform, is it not? Is tort reform on your list on issues to care about or on your list of issues to ignore?

The GOP should focus on all issues. I'd like to personally see more on stopping illegal immigration, but the party doesn't revolve around me, like you seem to think it should you.
187 posted on 08/26/2006 1:29:41 PM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: Blackirish

not that i want rudy to get the nod, but if he does, i hope he promises to jail all the potheads and druggies in america. THat's something i'd look forward to.


188 posted on 08/26/2006 1:32:07 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Blackirish

George Allen, as much as he is not my favorite candidate by and measure, would almost certainly be twice the fiscal conservative that a New York leftist like Rudolph Guiliani would be.

If that's what you're looking for, look up someone like Mike Pence or Tom Tancredo. They'd both fight a better war on terror with the PC-BS that Rudy would no-doubt give us too.


189 posted on 08/26/2006 1:32:23 PM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: Blackirish

If you think allen is such a looser then why do you promote the rudy/allen ticket?


190 posted on 08/26/2006 1:38:34 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: NapkinUser
If Pence would run it would be great.

He's shown guts and leadership abilities by standing up to the big spenders in his own party.

He was a talk show host so he has the ability to articulate conservative values.
I'm less concerned with litmus tests much more concerned with having a leader who can stand up to our enemies abroad and to K Street at home.
191 posted on 08/26/2006 1:41:57 PM PDT by Blackirish (I'm George Allen and I apologize.)
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To: veronica
I read through this whole thread looking to see if someone would post WHY they think Rudy would win a Republican primary. I don't see how. About 50% of the primary voters are Christian conservatives who will not vote for a pro-abortion candidate.

Rudy's only chance is if he repudiates his pro-abort position. Then he'd be open to the question of insincerity.

Of the candidates mentioned, I support George Allen the most. He could get the nomination and win against anything the Demos supply.

My ideal candidate would be Jeb Bush. People say he cannot be President because of "Bush fatigue" and he has said he didn't want to run. Pres. GW Bush had to be persuaded to run too, in 1999. I hope someone persuades him in 2007.
192 posted on 08/26/2006 2:10:42 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's an experiment for God's existence: Ask Him to contact you.)
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To: oceanview

Show me a list of former US big city mayors who are being peddled around the country as a prospective "conservative" presidential nominee.


193 posted on 08/26/2006 2:18:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Doohickey

Just a gut feeling. His city was hit in 911, and his curt refusal of the Saudis money then.


194 posted on 08/26/2006 2:22:14 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: nopardons
Rudy tried to move Judith Nations into the mayor's mansion while still married to his wife while his wife and children still resided there. The city council told him he was not allowed to do that. I read it here on freerepublic. It was in the NY papers.

The comparison with Bill Clinton was that he is a man of little integrity and morals, just like Bill.

When we elect men and women of low moral character like Rudy and Bill we shouldn't be surprised at what we end up with.

195 posted on 08/26/2006 9:42:00 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: texgal
You are not only ill educated and uninformed, but are evidently happy and proud to parade your stupidity in public. And please don't hand me that "I READ IT ON FR" tripe! I've been reading FR for nine years and seen so many erroneous things, passed off as "fact", that I could scream.

First of all, her name was Judith NATHAN, at that time. Rudy NEVER "tried to move her into Gracie Mansion! As a matter of fact, it was his wife, Donna Hanover, who not only took her maiden name back, but refused to campaign for him, when he ran to be reelected mayor, was and still is Hillary's friend, then starred in Hillary's pal's play, THE VAGINA MONOLGUES, just to embarrass him, when he was running against Hillary for the Senate seat, and tried to kick RUDY out of Gracie Manson, while he was going through cancer treatment. She DID kick him out of the master bedroom, made his life a living hell on wheels, and refused to moved out of Gracie Mansion ( though they did own a lovely apartment near there ), while divorce proceedings were going on.

The City Council? Again, you have no idea what you're talking about!

Clinton has NO integrity whatsoever, but no, you can't say that about Rudy.

We have had many presidents of low moral character; I bet the only one you can name is Clinton, though I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and guess that perhaps you might know about JFK. LOL

One of our all time WORST presidents, was that "HOLIER THAN THOU", sanctimonious Woodrow Wilson.

196 posted on 08/26/2006 11:03:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Rudy Trivia (this'll get'em going): where did Rudy live immediately after leaving Gracie Mansion during his marital problems?


197 posted on 08/26/2006 11:13:08 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
Some already know and it HAS gotten them "going". Best let sleeping dogs lay.

But we could always talk about the homosexual, cross dressing N.Y. Mayor, who the English stuck N.Y, with, I guess. LOL

198 posted on 08/26/2006 11:24:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: durasell
The more things change, the more they remain the same. This HAS happened several other times, in America's pasts; beginning in the late 1800s.
199 posted on 08/26/2006 11:26:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Rudy doesn't have a chance as a Presidential candidate. There are old men in the basement of City Hall who have been waiting since the Eisenhower administration to spill what they know about a mayor.

On the other hand, the way in which they hate Rudy is kinda touching in a naive sorta way.


200 posted on 08/26/2006 11:29:46 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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