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To: Cicero
Christian women have always played a role in teaching children about their religion, in the home and in school, and I've never run into this interpretation of Scripture before.

I have heard of women being limited to teaching children (boys and girls) and other women. I haven't specifically heard of women not being able to teach girls and women only, or not teach at all. But it wouldn't surprise me if that would happen.

How would you interpret "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent,"

276 posted on 08/24/2006 5:38:08 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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How would you interpret "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent,"

This scripture is speaking of the marriage relationship at home.  This has nothing whatsoever to do with the general relationship between all males and all females.  How do we know this?  Simple.  You quote 1Tim2:12.  But you leave out he following 3 verses which correlate and complete the thought.  I will type them for you:

For Adam was first formed, then Eve.  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.  Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. (1Tim2:13-15)

The word "for" in verse 13 connects and correlates these scriptures with the previous.  The word "they" in verse 15 proves that the author is speaking of husband and wife and NOT the general relationship between all males and all females.  Also, in verse 15 it speaks of the WIFE being saved trough childbearing which can only relate to the marriage relationship in the home.  It is unethical to only quote vs 12 and leave these out.  But its done all the time to prove the false doctrine of demanding women's silence in the church.

It is an insult to God to promote the theory that women must be silent in the church.  IN 1Cor14:34, 35, the author is repeating a quote from the corinthians letter (similar to what I did in italics above).  We know this from 1Cor 7:1.  In 1Cor 14:36, the author rebukes the corinthians for even thinking such a thing.  "what? came the Word of God out from you?"

The first person to preach Jesus as the Messiah was a woman (Luke2:36).  And she never left the temple and taught everyone in Jerusalem that came to the temple looking for the Messiah.

It is astounding that these scriptures have been misquoted, misused, and misinterpreted to promote a false doctrine.

315 posted on 08/25/2006 8:24:36 AM PDT by cilbupeR_eerF
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