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Glenn Beck wants to choke companies to death
CNN Transcripts ^ | August 23, 2006 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 08/23/2006 6:31:50 PM PDT by Dane

Mike Hethmon, he is with the Immigration Reform Law Institute. He`s one of the groups backing the California lawsuit.

Mike, thank you for doing this. I`ve been saying for a long time, "Choke these companies to death." Give me the lawsuit in a nutshell and the chances of it actually winning.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 0boocriminalaliens; 0hooraybeer; aliens; antibusiness; beck; danegotowned; danegotpwn3d; ducttape; glennbeck; gobacktodutroll; goglenn; immigrantlist; savingcnn; tortlawyers
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To: Dane
Yep Glenn sick these ambulance chasers against those evil farmers and contractors, since they do such evil things such as grow food or build shelter.

If certain farmers and contractors can't compete without breaking the law, then they shouldn't be in the business.

81 posted on 08/23/2006 7:25:06 PM PDT by Log
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To: Dane

"So growing food and building shelter is an inherantly "illegitimate" business and should be micromanaged from a DC office?"

Yes, when you hire illegals, absolutely.

Next stupid question?


82 posted on 08/23/2006 7:25:16 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: phoenix0468
Yes, sick those lawyers on these companies setting out the carrot that brings these illegals that fill our schools with children that can't even speak the language, fill our hospitals with patients that will not pay their bills, and generally continue to break laws even after doing so by coming here in the first place. Yes, tell me where to send my support, cause I'm signing up for it.

Here you go,

John Edward's OneAmerica Committee

83 posted on 08/23/2006 7:25:27 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: isthisnickcool; Dane
No, someone who posted this dumba$$ thread is getting bitch slapped.

FR is a tough place to post lies bud.


You got that right
84 posted on 08/23/2006 7:26:29 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: Dane
Hello,

Glenn Beck is cheering for those that would help return an EVEN playing field in the farming and construction businesses. You see, this is a lot like our conversation last night abour walls. It's easy to understand, if you want to:

Company that hires legally: Follows the law and pays the going labor rate.

Company the hires illegally: Does not follow the law and pays far less than the going labor rate.

See, it is easy to understand, if you put your mind to it. You can do that, right?

MOgirl
85 posted on 08/23/2006 7:27:46 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: Dane
...doesn't get his hands dirty to make a living

Since when has "getting one's hands dirty to make a living" become some sort of badge for your approval? The goal of many people is to go from a job where they get their hands dirty...to one where they don't.

86 posted on 08/23/2006 7:28:05 PM PDT by madison10
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To: MikefromOhio

LOL!, lose an arguement and declare victory with such good debating points such as "owned" and "bitch slapped"


87 posted on 08/23/2006 7:28:39 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

That's really funny. But seriously, I think that the government at every level needs to crack down on companies that hire and exploit illegal workers. If they need them so bad, they should help them get here legally, pay them a fair wage, and keep it all on the table and not under it.


88 posted on 08/23/2006 7:29:40 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Dane

I watched Glen Beck twice and both times he was rambling on and on and ON about American friggin Idol


89 posted on 08/23/2006 7:30:33 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Dane
Dane, Pretend Free Republic is here, Free Republic is here.
90 posted on 08/23/2006 7:31:02 PM PDT by gaussia
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To: MOgirl
Glenn Beck is cheering for those that would help return an EVEN playing field in the farming and construction businesses.

Is that glenn beck or jesse jackson on affirmative action.

You could make a parlor game out of glenn beck's quotes, kinda like the one, "is it al gore or the unabomber".

91 posted on 08/23/2006 7:31:23 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
LOL!, lose an arguement and declare victory with such good debating points such as "owned" and "bitch slapped"

Have you even stated a debating point worth debating? There is no debating ILLEGAL activity. You seem to excel in debating ILLEGAL activity. Are you participating in any ILLEGAL activity yourself?
92 posted on 08/23/2006 7:31:31 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

.."you got owned" flash.

That was the cats pajamas..really enjoyed that one.


93 posted on 08/23/2006 7:32:55 PM PDT by X918
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

You sure that wasn't Joe Scarborough?


94 posted on 08/23/2006 7:33:29 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: MikefromOhio

The next argument Dane wins on FR will be his first.


95 posted on 08/23/2006 7:34:35 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: Dane

Do you support the "artists" that break the law by making child porn? That is illegal too.

All of the people that I have met that support illegal activity supports most all illegal activity.

Do you draw a line or are kids unsafe around you?


96 posted on 08/23/2006 7:34:42 PM PDT by Eaker (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . .. Heaven)
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To: Eaker
Do you support the "artists" that break the law by making child porn? That is illegal too.

Hey if you wish to morally equivalize a child pornographer with a farmer or house builder, that's your perogative.

JMO, growing food and building shelter is not evil as you seem to think.

97 posted on 08/23/2006 7:37:06 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: X918

hehe yep :)

It's an all-timer IMO.


98 posted on 08/23/2006 7:38:19 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: isthisnickcool
No, someone who posted this dumba$$ thread is getting bitch slapped.

Maybe if we keep slappin', Dane will go the way of Bayourod.

It is fun watching someone get totally flamed on their own thread.

ROFLMAO!!!!
99 posted on 08/23/2006 7:40:02 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: LisaMalia

Illegal aliens linked
to gang-rape wave
The crime epidemic no one will talk about?

By Chelsea Schilling
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Member of gang Mara Salvatrucha (NPR.org)
A wave of illegal-immigrant gang rapes is sweeping the U.S. while public officials and law-enforcement authorities fear drawing the link, experts say.

Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, a Ph.D. researcher of violent crimes, told WorldNetDaily, "It appears as if there is a fear that if this is honestly discussed, people will hate all illegal immigrants. So there is silence. … But in being silent about the rapes and murders, it is as if the victims never even existed."

Schurman-Kauflin, who runs the Violent Crimes Institute in Atlanta, participated in a 12-month, in-depth study of illegal immigrants who committed sex crimes and murders from January 1999 through April 2006. The study found approximately 240,000 illegal-immigrant sex offenders reside in the United States – while 93 sex offenders and 12 serial sexual offenders come across U.S. borders illegally every day.

Schurman-Kauflin said, "Gang rapes by illegal immigrants appear to be gang related. Many of the cases I reviewed involved gang members. As part of being a cohesive group, they offend together. Inflicting brutal gang rapes brings them closer together as a group. It is a way to demonstrate their power. And it sends a message to anyone who dares to cross them."

Americans for Legal Immigration PAC told WND it now is tracking 12 gang rapes by illegal aliens within America's borders since Oct. 2004.

ALIPAC's president, William Gheen, said, "These are just the ones we know of. The real number is much higher."

Gheen told WND he believes the number of gang rapes is increasing as the population of illegal aliens in the U.S. increases.

"Many illegal aliens have a rape and pillage mentality toward America," he said. "The government has shown them they can break our laws on many levels without much fear of enforcement. Why should they think of rape or gang rape any differently?"

Gheen said, "Illegal aliens are more likely to engage in these crimes because rapes and gang rapes are much more common in the gang-rule Third World areas they come from."

MS-13, also known as Mara Salvatrucha, a highly organized and well-funded Central American gang, is infiltrating at least 33 states across the U.S., according to law-enforcement authorities. The gang is well-known in Los Angeles, Houston, New York and Washington, D.C., for excessive brutality. Any person suspected of cooperating with authorities is hunted down, tortured and killed. Initiation rites include kickings, beatings and gang rapes.

Gheen said, "These gangs are forcing new female gang members to undergo gang rape to enter the gang and they are asking their male initiates to gang rape American women to become an official member of the gang."

MS-13 relies on metropolitan areas with highly concentrated populations of illegal aliens to boost its spreading membership. Chapters require that initiates perform random acts of violence, such as participating in gang rapes, to gain acceptance, confirm law-enforcement officials.

Three MS-13 gang members were charged in the brutal rapes of two deaf girls, one 14, the other 17, in a Massachusetts park in 2002. One victim, who also suffered from cerebral palsy, was pushed out of her wheelchair before being raped repeatedly.

Illegal alien rapists often maintain several aliases, making escaping justice easier.

Jorge Villa-Gutierrez, 25, is in prison for the gang rape of an 18-year-old Douglas County, Colorado woman. He claimed to have paid only $100 for a fake ID and Social Security number.

Manuel Cantu, 28, pleaded guilty in Middlesex Superior Court February 2005 in Cambridge, Mass., to six counts of rape and one count of indecent assault and battery on a person over 14 years old. Cantu also went by the aliases Angel Meza and Angel M. Salvador, according to court documents.

Gheen said, "Illegal aliens have been walking out of American prisons after serving their time at taxpayer expense without being deported. Our government can't or won't find the hundreds of thousands of known felon illegal aliens walking America's streets tonight much less stop the new felons coming in tonight across our unsecured borders."

The Violent Crimes Institute study established a pattern of escalating offenses among illegal aliens, whose first offense was illegally entering the U.S.

Schurman-Kauflin told WND, "Illegal immigrants who commit sex crimes first cross the U.S. border illegally, then gradually commit worse crimes and are continually released back into society or deported. Those who were deported simply returned illegally again. There is a clear pattern of criminal escalation. From misdemeanors such as assault or DUI, to drug offenses, illegal immigrants who commit sex crimes break U.S. laws repeatedly."

Most of the offenders reported in the study were located in states with the highest numbers of illegal immigrants. California was No. 1, followed by Texas, Arizona, New Jersey, New York and Florida. The 1,500 offenders studied had a total of 5,999 victims – averaging four victims each. Of those studied, 525, or 35 percent, were child molestations, 358, or 24 percent, were rapes, and 617, or 41 percent, were sexual homicides and serial murders.

Schurman-Kauflin said, "We need to know who is coming into this country. It is a matter of security, life and death. … Our borders should be secured so that those with evil intentions cannot enter. We need more Border Patrol agents, more training for these agents and a commitment that we will not tolerate predators coming into this country. There must be security and a return to the rule of law."

Last year, officials of the House Judiciary Committee said that U.S. immigration officers and police are not always on the same page. Police do not always inform immigration authorities about arrests of undocumented aliens, and immigration officers are often too late to identify the aliens before they are released on bail.

New York's arm of the Department of Homeland Security is only interviewing 40 percent of foreign-born inmates at Rikers Island – "a failure that puts criminal aliens back on the streets instead of deporting them," according to the New York Post.

"Gang rape is a form of terrorism. It has been used throughout history as a weapon of terror," Gheen said. "Most Americans do not see the war that is already upon us in our communities and neighborhoods."

Some high-profile gang rapes by illegal immigrants include:


December 2002 – In New York, several criminal aliens, who had passed in and out of Rikers and other jails without being detected by immigration officials, brutally beat and gang-raped a Queens mother of two near Shea Stadium. Three of the five rapists were illegal Mexican aliens with multiple prior arrests for crimes including assault, weapon possession and armed robbery.

January 2004 – Four illegal aliens were among the five men who brutally gang-raped a New York City woman. "They punched me so hard that I was knocked to the floor," the 43-year-old victim wrote before Supreme Court Justice Randall Eng sentenced one of her attackers, Victor Cruz, to 21 years in prison. Cruz, Luis Carmona, Carlos Rodriguez, Armando Juvenal and José Hernandez pleaded guilty in December to rape and kidnapping charges in exchange for sentences of 20 to 23 years.

October 2004 – a 37-year-old North Carolina woman was gang raped by at least seven illegal aliens in Huntersville, N.C.

Oct. 4, 2005 – In Immokalee, Fla., 14 field laborers, ranging in age from 18 to 56, broke into an 18-year-old woman's home, dragged her across the street and then took turns raping her. The victim said the men choked and hit her until she became unconscious. When she awoke, a man poured alcohol in her mouth. The men removed her clothing and each one raped her.

June 28, 2006 – Texas' Waco Tribune Herald reported illegal immigrants Javier Guzman Martinez, 18, and Noel Darwin Hernandez, 22, have been charged with one count of aggravated kidnapping and one count of aggravated sexual assault of an 18-year-old Tehuacana woman. The girl had been cut with a piece of glass or "other unknown object."

July 10 – In Sayre, Pa., the Evening Times reported "Gasper Almilcar Guzman" was among a group of men who were found July 10 to be in this country illegally following a routine traffic stop in Athens Township. Guzman had been convicted of raping a 14-year-old girl in Alabama in 2005. Guzman was deported before he could begin serving his five-year sentence.

July 13 -- In Noblesville, Ind., an illegal alien named Miguel Gutierrez, 20, faces two counts of rape for taking a 14-year-old into a garage and participating in a four-man gang rape on the girl. Following the gang rape, the girl was forced into a car and raped again, according to news reports.

July 17 – In Greenville, N.C., Fernando Cruz, 41, Walter Ramires, 26, Luis Morales, 24, and Pedro Vasques, 27, were charged with first-degree rape and first-degree kidnapping of a woman. They drove the woman to a field path on the edge of town and took turns raping her.

July 21 – Sinoe Salgado Garcia, a 28-year-old Fontana, Calif., man convicted of kidnapping and raping a 4-year-old girl, was sentenced to a 30-year-to-life prison term, according to the Riverside Press Enterprise. The child was found hours later inside a shed, thrown over a 6-foot-tall block wall, investigators said. She underwent surgery to repair damage caused by the rape and sodomy, court records show. The site reported that she also suffered three facial fractures.

Aug. 3 – Two young illegal aliens living in Charlotte, N.C., were charged with gang raping an Asheville teenager at the Red Roof Inn. They are 22-year-old Pablo Vasquez Osorio and 23-year-old Marcos Guerrero Fuentes. Both were charged with first-degree rape and kidnapping of a 17-year-old Asheville girl at a Red Roof Inn.


100 posted on 08/23/2006 7:40:03 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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