Health Care Costs Money, So Buy It! (Dr. Rush Limbaugh Slams "The Give It To Me" Mentality Alert)

Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 08/23/06 | Rush Limbaugh

[Proverbs 3-5]

Why can't the religious organizations offer some type of Health Care Insurance etc to their congrgations

This is a different issue but when I have gone on benevolence visits on behalf of my church I have been amazed that these people who need help have the full gamut of cable or satellite and usually have a hundred channels more than me, the latest stereo, large screen TV, the latest gizmos for their kids (computers, ipods etc). They have money for beer and ciggies, which is fine by me as long they have the money...their own money.

Even a guy at work whose daughter just graduated from college complains about having to subsidized his daughter's health insurance, yet she doesn't pack her own lunch for work and has money for dining out a half dozen times a week money for cigarettes and money for vacations and buying gifts for her friends.

I recall when I graduated from college for years I drove a used car, then a cheap new car. It was years before I bought a new the latest and greatest anything that wasn't a necessity.

I guess I'm not very sympathetic because I am handicapped and put myself through college and found my own job...

[Doohickey]

Did you have a specific comment regarding the content of the article, or did you just show up because you're pissed off and wanted to throw a bomb?

[Proverbs 3-5]

I guess my point (which I left out) is that we seem to live in a society of instant gratification. Right out of high school or college we have to have a new stereo, a new big screen TV, a new car, palatial digs and then say we don't have enough money for necessities.

Pretty much the opposite extreme of my 90 year old mother-in-law who still saves every scrap of tin foil and twisty-ties off every loaf of bread even though she has no money worries.

[Apple Blossom]

..."sample them up"...

Don't fault the patient, they were told by Good Housekeeping to ask their physician for samples to reduce their costs for prescription medicines. At the rate we throw out expired medications around here that our doctor doesn't hand out, it wouldn't hurt to have some patients remind him that we have FREE samples!

[middie]

I plead guilty to the charge of not responding to the posted article. I considered the actual transcript to be both unremarkable and non sequitur. My response was directed at the pretentious, arrogant, condescension, feigned omniscience, obnoxious persona and faux sincerity of herr Limbaugh. To him truth is a fungible concept to be molded and selectively asserted to suit his purpose dejour, the context and underlying purpose of his selected anecdotal examples being unimportant to his wished for conclusions. I trust in the axiom that when all evil is argued to exist in one place and all beneficence in his favorite political place, there probably really nothing to his arguemnts other than storm and fury.

[goldstategop]

Employers still deduct the amount from our paycheck. And in a single payer system, the government will deduct it from your taxes. Nothing in life is free. If it was, every one would sign up for it!

( No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

[socialismisinsidious]

I never said anything about money. Interesting that you (Mr I'm going to lecture you b/c I think that I know you) made that assumption. I said that I (actually my husband and I) worked to build a business, I followed my dreams, I worked for an education and those things make me successful.

Your most laughable assumption: the country club old money thing. I have the same obligations as you and I don't have the rich family that you imply that I have..as a matter of fact I clawed my way out of poverty. (grew up living in a trailer on welfare, step father made 10K/year with 10 other kids living in the "house"--boohoo.), but hey you assume that I started with some sort of advantage b/c of where I am today. You have no idea who I am comfortable talking/hanging with. Your assumptions are a joke and doing them under the guise of being a regular Joe/blue collar guy is pathetic.

I don't' look at others and want what they have even though many have more material things than I do. I don't compare myself to others b/c that is class envy no matter how you spin it and it is counter productive. The fact that you are aware of the "different lifestyle" of people on the radio doesn't jive with your assertion of not caring what other people have.



BTW: no one forces you to listen 'all those demographically unlike me' people on the radio. There is a thing called a dial---you have the freedom to turn it off.

[uncbob]

Won't get an argument from me

Todays Americans haven't the faintest idea of what hard times are and the young generation is spoiled rotten

I was born during the depression and God help this current lot if hard times ever come they won't know what hit them

You were in fat city back in my day if you had chicken for Sunday dinner

Now you can go to McD's and gorge all day on it for peanuts

[bethtopaz]

Yeah, I know about that pre-existing condition thing. I actually can't get insured by the company I sell for. I can also sell Blue Cross through Farmers Insurance, for which I'm a property/casualty agent, but Blue Cross is just so much more expensive. Also, check and see what your co-insurance deductible is, also. That the one where you have to pay after your first deductible. You pay 20 or 30 percent up to a certain amount -- there's a ceiling to it. Most people aren't really aware of that.
But like one of the posters said in the this thread - If you think health care is expensive now - just wait until it's free! (In Canada they pay 75 cents on the dollar for their health care and it's lousy. They come to the U.S. to get health care!)

[Trailerpark Badass]

People bitch about spending their own money on essentials, like health care and gasoline, but think nothing of dropping a couple grand on a vacation or a big screen TV. It's crazy.

[Trailerpark Badass]

That's true and the reason I think is because the system is insulated from market forces.

Of course it is. Health insurance providers need more profit, they raise rates or restrict deny coverage. That's much cheaper to their bottom line than auditing individual bills, which in my limited experience are 50-150% overcharges.

[mad_as_he$$]

I think Rush is out of touch on this one. A large number of members in my family are in the HC profession. It is waaayyyyy screwed up because of federal regulation and law. Now you will say that that needs to be fixed - I agree - but it isn't going to change in the next 50 years. Medicare pays $12/day for a hospital stay. Your insurance pays about $800 - why doesn't that work? HA! Illegal patient care costs millions that are not reimbursed by anyone to counties and state.Unfunded mandates that cost you and your employer billions of dollars.

[chiefqc]

To bring it to a level that you may understand better, It's like the doctor telling you how bad smoking is while he lights up another one for himself. The advise he gives is for everyone else, but no for him.

[chiefqc]

Seem like I may have touched a raw nerve. Then again it proves just what I said, those that have preach their set of guidelines to those who are not in their position. I am truely happy for you, just don't preach to me when you no nothing about my life and what trials I have gone through. Anyway have a great day and enjoy the fruit of your labor.

[chiefqc]

I'm not looking for free health care, but being told by someone who has the means to afford paying their own way and that the rest of us need to suck it up is arrogant at best.

[socialismisinsidious]

The message is right on but you refute it based on the amount of money that you believe that the messenger has. That is ridiculous. Some of us are sick of the stealth socialism...60% of the US budget is for entitlements! How much higher does it have to get for people to wake up?

Some of us know that socialized medicine, the enslavement of an entire professional population and the loss of freedom that it would mean for all of US is a bad idea. Some just want others to carry more. What is going to happen when Atlas shrugs?

Spare the life trial speech...at some point all of us have been handed a pile of dung by life.

[therut]

Ive already decided it will not inslave me. I will quit practicing medicine. Oh I know how it will be done. At first the payments will be very good like they were to lure physicians into accepting Medicare ( Did you know the AMA was very aganist this and actually put out an album preaching aganist socialism but they caved). Give it a few years and then the regulations and papyment cuts and bundling, and DRG's and on and on and the paper work grows and nobody is happy. Physicians are just barely holding on to theor profession by a string. They will eventually just be another Fed employee and believe me those in the system will treat their patients like the DMV clinic does. I dread it and hope I am long gone from the earth. The would be nothing so awful as being elderly and being cared for by a Federal DMV provider.

[socialismisinsidious]

I will quit practicing medicine.

I am hearing that a lot. I have several people close to me that are saying the same thing. And Atlas shrugged.

And the scenario that you lay out is right on...it will be presented as wonderful initially in order to entice, it will sustain for a time and then the games begin.

I worry b/c trying to dig out from under socialism is close to impossible. I figure that I will be officially entering old age right about the time it begins to hit the fan. sigh.