[Thrusher]

Civility in public debate remains dead and buried.

First of all, it is difficult to be civil in a debate where your opponent, who is supposed to be your representative, continues to insult your intelligence by lying to your face.

Secondly, remember that the media spin on this is that those who are against illegal immigration are ignorant, racist rednecks... portraying their behavior in the most negative light possible fits the media agenda.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

"Civility in public debate remains dead and buried".

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Does "civility" mean greasing up and bending over?
I was brought up to be civil, it has cost me more than it has gained.