[Jake The Goose]

And Giuliani does not agree with half of it. 80% of Republicans agree with ALL of it,

Oh really !!!!!!!!! (want to check your facts?)

For the 2008 Republican Presidential Nomination whom would you support? (Republicans Only)
Rudy Giuliani 30%
John McCain 20%
Newt Gingrich 17%
Mitt Romney 6%
Bill Frist 5%
George Allen 3%
Rick Santorum 1%
George Pataki 1%
Chuck Hagel 1%
Undecided 16%

[LibertyLee]

Note to all: Dinasour has posted on the WH Presser With Tony Snow thread that the scheduled entry on C-Span has been deleted. We don't know yet if the Presser has been cancelled or delayed or ???

[StoneWall Brigade]

thats just some dumb poll

[Dr. Ed Bravo]

How will the pro-abortion Guiliani get the nomination from the GOP?

[TexasPatriot8]

Check my facts? So that poll is gospel??? How about a new poll where the candidates positions are listed then lets see what happens.

Based on that poll, you believe that most Republicans don't care at all about Conservative Judges, or gay marriage, or partial birth-abortion, or embryonic stem cell research, or any other social conservative issues. If you really believe that, then you do not have a clue what the majority of Republican voters believe. And if that poll is gospel, where was it taken? Which states Republicans was it taken from? Barely red states and blue state RINOs? It wasn't RINOs and social issue vacants that got Bush elected in 2004. It was the conservative movement, and that movement is the majority of the GOP. Fact check THAT!

[TexasPatriot8]

Giuliani will NOT win the GOP nomination for President in 2008. Mark my words. Write it down, record it. To do so, he would have to win in all the solid red states that are filled with solid conservatives who he disagrees with on half the big issues. I can't believe I'm even having to argue something so obvious. If a RINO was acceptable, McCain would have gotten the nod in 2000 not Bush. McCain is more conservative than Giuliani and even HE couldn't beat a solid conservative who stands by the GOP plank. THis is so obvious. If a GOP seeker of the Presidential nomination doesn't agree with and support the WHOLE GOP plank, then they have no right to be President. The plank is what it is because MOST Republicans made it such.

If you really think that a vote of ONLY Republican voters would show that most Republicans support moderate non-constructionist Judges, support Gay marraige, support partial birth abortion, support abortion, and support the death penalty, then you don't know the majority of Republican voters. The result of that poll would be 70% to 80% or more in opposition of how Giuliani stands on this issues, and when against REAL candidates that support the conservative agenda on those issues, GOP voters will choose the candidate that reflects the issues which they turned into the GOP plank. If the truth is otherwise, then why did McCain, a RINO non-conservative secularist not beat Bush in 2000? Your argument defies logic, and the past 12 years of facts in how the GOP has been and currently is. Traditional social issues are the soul of the GOP, and what seperate it from the DNC, even moreso than fiscal conservative values. Are you challenging that?