Kentucky Teacher Reassigned After Burning Flags During Civics Lesson

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[polymuser]

VOUCHERS!

[ItsForTheChildren]

And why are your children still enrolled in this "school"?

I had a nice long reply all ready to go when a storm knocked out our electricity. That put me in a better mood because we really needed the rain, short-lived though it was. So I'm not going to send the reply I had planned.

But I will say this. You comment set me off because the way I read it (granted, colored by the words of many on this board) it implies that I'm not doing everything I can for my child's welfare. Don't you dare make that assumption.

[AdamSelene235]

Please explain how spending 9 months a year 5 days a week under the influence of a person who considers Michael Moore appropriate classroom material benefits your child?

[ItsForTheChildren]

First off, its 50 minutes a day not 5 days a week. (I know, you didn't realize we're talking high school here. Yes, he's the first serious liberal she's encountered in 9 years of school.)

Second, I believe now's a good time for her to learn, first hand, what these people are like. I don't just dump my child at school and leave it at that. There are many discussions ahead for us, I'm sure. The bottom line is I prefer my child learn to live in the real world and learn how to think.

[AdamSelene235]

Yes, he's the first serious liberal she's encountered in 9 years of school.)

Somehow, I doubt that's true.

Second, I believe now's a good time for her to learn, first hand, what these people are like.

Talk about opportunity cost. I think the time would be better spent learning the subject he's supposed to be teaching. His class will likely specialize in the implantation of false ideas, a far greater impediment to understanding than mere ignorance.

He might as well be hawking The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to the kiddies.

Michael Moore for sale in Amman, Jordan along with Mein Kampf, Che, and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

[ItsForTheChildren]

Yeah. Ya caught me. I'm a liar.
Whatever.

[Protagoras]

VOUCHERS! .....suck

[polymuser]

VOUCHERS! .....suck

I'm curious. Would it be OK if all government payments for SS, welfare, military, etc. had to be spent at government (public) stores?

[Protagoras]

I'm curious. Would it be OK if all government payments for SS, welfare, military, etc. had to be spent at government (public) stores?

Government payments for the first two things listed are antithetical to a free society.

Which of course has nothing to do with school vouchers. Federal involvement in education is unconstitutional.

There are other problems with vouchers, but the fact that a federal program for them is unconstitutional makes them irrelevant.

The actual effect of government vouchers for education is the takeover of so called "private schools".

People who advocate vouchers are on the right track by trying to introduce competition, but the method is faulty and harmful.

Government schools should be abolished.

[polymuser]

Thanks. I go back and forth a bit, but know something must change. I see schooling-for-all as a valid local government activity, as I see police- or fire departments-for-all as being necessary. And, vouchers would be state-issued, as most school funding is now, and not from federal. I agree with all federal school funding being abolished. It's the NEA/union/fed hold on government schooling that is the real culprit, combined with the voter apathy that has let it become what it is now.

[Protagoras]

I see schooling-for-all as a valid local government activity,

I disagree. People are responsible for educating themselves and their children. Children who cannot provide for themselves could be provided for in a way that doesn't involve providing an education for all. And it could be provided for privately.

as I see police- or fire departments-for-all as being necessary.

Police are necessary to defend the rights of the citizens. Other activities should be discontinued.

Fire protection is currently being provided on a voluntary basis for most of the geographical country.

School vouchers, even if administered locally, come with strings. Government money always does. Then the schools who take the money are beholden to do as they are told or lose funding. Hence, government control over private institutions.

Vouchers suck.