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Ancient Indian port linked to Roman Empire faces extinction(India)
AFP ^ | 21 Aug 2006 | Jeemon Jacob

Posted on 08/22/2006 2:26:29 AM PDT by Marius3188

PATTANAM, India -- Pottery shards, beads, Roman copper coins, and ancient wine bottles litter the strata beneath this small seaside village in India's southern Kerala state.

The 250 families, mostly agricultural laborers, who live in Pattanam, 260 kilometers (161 miles) north of Kerala's capital Thiruvananthapuram, find the objects pretty, but would rather dig up the ground and build larger homes.

But according to archaeologists K.P. Shajan and V. Selvakumar, they may be destroying the remnants of Muziris, a well-documented trading port where Rome and India met almost 3,000 years ago.

They say that, based on remote sensing data, a river close to Pattanam had changed its course and the ancient port may have been buried due to earthquakes or floods.

The two are worried that construction activity in the village will destroy evidence about the existence of the port before they get the chance to examine it scientifically.

"There is no doubt that Pattanam was a major port that is linked to Indo-Roman trade," Shajan said. "But we can't confirm whether it was Muziris. We need more collaborative evidence to support our findings."

A majority of the families that live in Pattanam are demolishing old tiled-roof structures and replacing them with concrete buildings right in the middle of the 1.5-kilometer zone where Shajan and Selvakumar say that Muziris was possibly located.

Muziris was a port city mentioned in several ancient travelogues and scholarly texts as a major center of trade between India and Rome, especially in pepper and other spices around the second century BC to probably as late as the sixth century AD.

Christianity may have been introduced to the sub-continent through Muziris, historians say. But Muziris mysteriously dropped off the map - maybe to war, plague, or disaster.

The two archaeologists say that they want to find out for sure and have asked local preservation groups to help.

Kerala's Historical Research Council, an independent body that promotes research in history, says that it has written to the Archaeological Survey of India, which is in charge of protecting monuments and historical places, to take steps to protect Pattanam.

But K.V. Kunjikrishnan, a professor of history, says that neither the government nor the Archaeological Survey of India has responded.

"The construction activity in the area may destroy vital evidence of historical importance," says Kunjikrishnan.

Pattanam housewife Sheeba Murali says that ancient beads pop out from the ground after heavy rains and the 30-year-old history graduate, like some other villagers, collects them and hands them over to the archaeologists.

Villagers say that they used to get gold coins from the site, but kept the finds quiet.

"Nobody admits whatever things they get. We are scared that the government may take over our land for archaeological survey," says villager Arun Rajagopal.

It was from Rajagopal's land that the two archaeologists discovered beads, layer of bricks, wine bottles, jars, pendants, and copper coins.

Selvakumar says that the ancient bricks, which the villagers used to build their homes, bore a close resemblance to those used 2,500 years ago.

"During my excavations I collected a wide range of pottery which goes back to the historic date. Amphorae, roulette ware, beads, nails and several other artifacts such as copper coins were also recovered," he says.

But Sheeba says that villagers will continue building new homes.

"My children need a decent place to stay when they grow up. But I am thrilled to live in a place where history sleeps," she says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; empire; erythraeansea; godsgravesglyphs; india; indianocean; kerala; lakshmi; monsoonwind; monsoonwinds; muziris; navigation; pattanam; pepper; pompeii; port; raoulmclaughlin; roman; romanempire; romantrade; spices; yavanapura
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1 posted on 08/22/2006 2:26:31 AM PDT by Marius3188
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To: SunkenCiv

Roman-India trade
GGG ping


2 posted on 08/22/2006 2:27:10 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: Marius3188

Feces extinction alert!


3 posted on 08/22/2006 2:32:31 AM PDT by tupac (What a load of CRAP!!)
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To: Marius3188

Ooops, sorry. Didn't have me glasses on yet.


4 posted on 08/22/2006 2:33:43 AM PDT by tupac (What a load of CRAP!!)
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To: Marius3188
"My children need a decent place to stay when they grow up. But I am thrilled to live in a place where history sleeps," she says.

I think that's Indian for "my give a damn is busted." If the diggers want the land then pay the owners. Otherwise, TS.

5 posted on 08/22/2006 2:35:57 AM PDT by Axhandle
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Now That's Fair Enough! I Agree!


6 posted on 08/22/2006 3:06:07 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: Axhandle

Reread the article if you find the time


7 posted on 08/22/2006 3:21:56 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Marius3188
>> almost 3,000 years ago.

That would antedate the legendary founding of Rome around 750 b.c. One doubts that any Romans made it to India before there were any Romans.

8 posted on 08/22/2006 3:22:06 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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They say that, based on remote sensing data, a river close to Pattanam had changed its course...

What is "remote sensing data"? It sounds like ESP or alien contact.

9 posted on 08/22/2006 4:43:51 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In war the only moral value is to win. America must ruthlessly fight to win.)
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To: Marius3188
I'll give these people a friendly heads up.

They're not likely to hear from the Romans for some time. They might want to get new trading partners, instead of waiting for the Roman trade to pick up.
10 posted on 08/22/2006 5:21:43 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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11 posted on 08/22/2006 5:49:51 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: Rapscallion

'Remote sensing data' is basically satellite imagery. India has one of the best, and largest networks for satellite remote sensing, in the world.


India uses them mostly for communication, agricultural and meteorological purposes.


12 posted on 08/22/2006 7:04:11 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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13 posted on 08/22/2006 7:57:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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14 posted on 08/22/2006 8:20:19 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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>> almost 3,000 years ago.

That would antedate the legendary founding of Rome around 750 b.c. One doubts that any Romans made it to India before there were any Romans.

It's probably just a typo error. 2,000 years ago would be correct. HDNet ran a series called "Eurasian Empires" a few months back, one episode of which featured the Indian/Roman trade which flourished at that time. The Roman fleets were heavily dependent on the seasonal direction of the prevailing winds over the Indian Ocean. They would send an entire fleet in the Fall when the winds were Westerly. The fleet would then winter in India till the Spring when the winds turned Easterly, then return to Rome (actually, Egypt).

15 posted on 08/22/2006 8:29:59 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (You can kill all the orcs you want but ya gotta take the ring to Mordor to end it...)
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The British would do the same thing, even thought they had ships that could tack into the wind. Sailing with the prevailing winds made for a much faster passage for the Indiamen.
16 posted on 08/22/2006 8:42:09 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Axhandle
"...I am thrilled to live in a place where history sleeps,"

Far better, I'd say, than being a toymaker in a land where children are forbidden.
17 posted on 08/22/2006 9:29:55 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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18 posted on 08/22/2006 9:31:30 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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19 posted on 08/22/2006 12:01:39 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: Marius3188

They tear down a tree, and put up a parking lot.


20 posted on 08/22/2006 2:47:03 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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