[the invisib1e hand]

I have come to a conclusion about the question of why are some muslims good people, if Islam is so evil.

It's a conclusion, not an anwer. And my conclusion is this: There are good human beings who are Muslim. And they seem to be collectively frozen stiff about standing up to people who do unspeakable evil on a mass scale in the name of their god. They do nothing. I don't know why -- perhaps they are terrorized themselves. There may be lots of issues. But my conclusion is, if the good people who are Muslim cannot find the moral capital in their faith to stand up against the evil people who are Muslim, they must either renounce Islam or become evil themselves.

In other words, either your faith condones the evil or it condemns it. Let the good people who are Muslim find a faith that is suitable to their goodness, if it isn't Islam. And let's quit pretending Islam is both. It's one or the other.

[mosquewatch.com]

There are good human beings who are Muslim.

Yes good Muslims are terrorists. Muslims that do not fight and die for allah , or support the mujahadin are bad Muslims.

[Ragnorak]

I agree with you, and I'm getting pretty tired of the myriad of efforts to justify or rationalize the silence. Can you imagine the Pope or Billy Graham calling for an ecumenical council to decide if strapping bombs to your own children to kill someone else's is consistent with Christian theology? Can you imagine any Christian group tolerating a claim that Jesus wanted citizens of the US to send our children strapped with bombs across the Canadian border until they gave us Montreal?

This is insanity. No decent Christian, Jew, or Buddhist would ever silently tolerate it being done in their faith's name.

The Muslim silence is deafening. It isn't my job, an American President's job, or any living non-Muslim's job to defend the peace-loving name of that "religion." I could care less whether it is cowardice or benign agreement that evokes the silence; the silence is the willing surrender of their faith to murderers.

Face it, if Islam is a peaceful religion and most Muslims are decent folk, then the only thing they would need to do in order to let the rest of us know it is actually bother to profess their own faith-- apparently that's too much to ask.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

But my conclusion is, if the good people who are Muslim cannot find the moral capital in their faith to stand up against the evil people who are Muslim, they must either renounce Islam or become evil themselves.

Look, Islam has lasted 1400 years. That is because they have every situation covered. By "stand up" you must mean kill the "bad" Muslims to protect infidels. It is forbidden:

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

[holden]

Muslims who understand themselves and believe their faith to be moral want, nonetheless, to have everything be Islamic (read "good"), so this period of "upheaval" can be mercifully short.

It's as if we American were plagued by mutant, virus-carrying tribbles that threatened our existence. Ridding the landscape of mutant, virus-carrying tribbles would doubtless be a messy killing activity, but hey, to be finally rid of those pesky things, we'd probably let our youthful, otherwise less productive males do the dirty work. If we opposed this activity, or callously refused to support the victims of the tribbles, or youth who were helping to rid the community in that fashion, we'd be certain to be ostracized from the community, and ultimately could expect to be treated like the mutant, virus-carrying tribbles, that is, killed. And thus, we'd snatch defeat from the jaws of victory where our side is certain to win.

HF

[Rome2000]

The Pope of islum is OBL

[thoughtomator]

The reason why no good-hearted Muslim stands up and says something about it is that Islam is a religion of power and submission. The good-hearted ones have no power within the religion, thus according to their conditioning, they cannot act against the powerful, violent ones. To take the side of a non-Muslim against a Muslim, no matter how wrong the Muslim might be, is simply unthinkable.

[Rembrandt]

"I have come to a conclusion about the question of why are some muslims good people, if Islam is so evil."

Perhaps we first have to do some re-definition. How many of those people who seem to be good people are actually sleepers or people who have yet to stand up and support their true "God?"

[Chena]

I believe also that there are good human beings who are Muslim. I also know that many of those good human beings who happen to be Muslim HAVE spoken out, and HAVE taken a stand against those who use their religion as an evil tool for terrorism. Unfortunately, there are many who refuse to listen to them, refuse to acknowledge what they are saying against terrorism and Islamic extremists. Those people will only be convinced if every good, Muslim, human being offer themselves up as some sort of sick sacrifice.

I refuse to be associated with people who are Islamafobics. That being said, I support President Bush and the WOT, because HE GETS IT! He understands the difference between "everyday" Muslims, just trying to make ends meet and raise their families, and those who are trying to destroy those same families along with yours and mine.

[lightman]

You are what you tolerate.

You tolerate terrorists? You are a terrorist.

Bush Doctrine 101.

[Cold Heat]

It's religious hypocrisy, and it is endemic.

Not just Islam either.

[Little Ray]

I'm sure there were good Germans in Nazi Germany.

Didn't stop us from bombing and shooting the hell of it.

"Good" Muslims shouldn't stop us watching them at home and killing them abroad. Its their bad luck they lived next to a target or got between us and someone who needed to die.