13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
The inconvenient fact is, Satan approached Eve to rebel against God, not Adam. Eve was the one who was deceived, Eve was the first one to disobey God. Not Adam. Adam foolishly followed in Eve's footsteps, and was punished by God for it, but Adam was not approached by Satan for the purpose of deception, and Adam was not the one deceived.
This is about the roles of men and women in the church as commanded by God. The truth of Scripture and the eternal condition of the souls of mankind are too important for God to just leave to chance. Unfortunately for many people, God is not politically correct and is not subject to the whims of human beings, like feminism and it's resulting rearrangement of society, for instance.
Where man looks at this and sees unfairness and "discrimination", God sees the fact that the woman, having the nature that God gave her, was known by Satan to be susceptible to deception, was confronted by Satan, was lied to by Satan, and sinned against God as a result of the deception.
Women have their God-given roles in the church; being in a position of authority over men is not one of them. And, if we don't like it, it's too bad.
Well, if women are so given to deception, and it took a supernatural being to deceive Eve, what does that say about Adam, who was deceived by an ordinary woman?
Now, if the qualifications for teaching is smarts then Adam (man) is in deficit and Eve (woman) is triumphant because she is obvously more persuasive.
My conclusion? Eve better teacher than Adam.
Gen3:6 ...She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Since he was there, he was also decieved.
"God sees the fact that the woman, having the nature that God gave her, was known by Satan to be susceptible to deception, was confronted by Satan, was lied to by Satan, and sinned against God as a result of the deception."
Gen 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
They were created equal and in the image of God. There's no difference between them as far as rational powers of mind go. Paul gave that passage out of the hardness in men's hearts. That's the same reason Moses gave the divorce law.
Oh, for heaven's sake, Adam was deceived too! Not directly by the devil, but by the devil through Eve! They were both sinners. That doesn't mean that women should be quiet and listen! Get yourself a better argument! By the way, I was raised Baptist, went to Wheaton College and then became a Catholic after marriage. I never heard any of this stuff in either of those churches.
Who ever said teaching a class is a "position of authority." I wonder if their are any women professors at the bible colleges?????? Gee, let me think about that. How silly.
If you're going to be an absolutist on this business of God's dictates (as you interpret them), you've gotta' buy into all of them, and AVOID all those things not specifically required in the Bible ~ after all, if God had wanted you to do them He'd told you about it.
Adam sinned purposefully and without being deceived - and he was there with her, according to the text. Tell me how this sinning in full knowledge that the Creator had specifically forbidden him to eat the fruit is better than what Eve did?
And, while you're explaining, it would be helpful if you could cover the saved through childbirth verse, too.
Who are you to interpret scripture? Protestantism naturally begets toleration of error. Rejecting the principle of authority in religion, it has neither criterion nor definition of faith. On the principle that every individual or sect may interpret the deposit of Revelation according to the dictates of private judgment, it gives birth to endless differences and contradictions.
Wow... say, are you married? yeah? dang it....
You don't have a sister do you? :-)