Posted on 08/21/2006 11:04:35 AM PDT by neverdem
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You don't know the half of it. But I'd be interested in your source for his views on the UN.
- Attended and marched in every gay pride parade in NYC while mayor (even one in 1992 that included a NAMBLA contingent of pedophile activists)
- Attends and supports many functions and fund-raisers held by radical gay organizations (even did a cross dressing act at Pride Agenda fund-raiser)
- Openly opposes Constitutional Amendment to protect tradition marriage which is supported by President Bush and the Republican Party Platform.
- Supported "domestic partner" and "civil union" bills in City Council while mayor of NYC.
- Submitted Gay "Domestic-Partner" Rights Bill to City Council giving gay and lesbian couples the same benefits reserved for married couples.
- Said, "I'm proud of it" when referring to the gay "domestic partner" bill he submitted. Said, "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like this new domestic-partners bill...I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country."
- Has received awards from several radical gay agenda organizations who support gay marriage for his support of their cause. Is considered a "champion" of gay "rights."
- Lived with a gay "married" couple in Manhattan when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his second divorce.
- Said that homosexuality is "good and normal"
Some people want Republicans to ignore his liberalism on almost every issue and, as a distraction, they try to pretend that Rudy is fiscally conservative. Again, his record shows that he isn't fiscally conservative either:
According to an article in The Nation from 2002:
It's now apparent that Giuliani purchased the city's good times partially with borrowed money and left his successor, Mike Bloomberg, holding a bag of debt. New York City went from a $3 billion budget surplus in 1998 to a $4.5 billion deficit after Giuliani left office. This mismanagement of prosperity is a big part of his legacy. Giuliani left the city's finances in a mess...Here are some things Giuliani did as Mayor that were NOT anywhere near being fiscally conservative:
- New York City went from a $3 billion budget surplus in 1998 to a $4.5 billion deficit after Giuliani left office.
- Added 25,000 government employees patronage hires to the city's payroll after promising to cut the work force.
- Giuliani's borrowing practices increased the city's debt burden by 50 percent.
- Partly because of Giuliani, New York City is now the biggest debtor in the nation outside of the federal government with $42 billion in loans outstanding.
According to the article from The Nation:
During the 1960s Giuliani was a self-described "Robert Kennedy Democrat." He identified with RFK as a liberal Catholic prosecutor. He volunteered for RFK's 1968 presidential campaign while he was a student at NYU Law School. Giuliani also voted for George McGovern in 1972. During the liberal 1960s, he was a liberal.So, to sum that up:But in 1975 Giuliani switched his party registration from Democrat to Independent when he got a job in Gerald Ford's Justice Department, according to his mentor Harold "Ace" Tyler.
On December 8, 1980, Giuliani changed his registration from Independent to Republican. This was one month after Ronald Reagan's election, and just as he was applying for a top job in the Justice Department.
"He only became a Republican after he began to get all these jobs from them. He's definitely not a conservative Republican. He thinks he is, but he isn't..."
And as John Hawkins put it in an excellent article in Human Events:
Despite all of his charisma and the wonderful leadership he showed after 9/11, Rudy Giuliani is not a Reagan Republican. To the contrary, Giuliani is another Christie Todd Whitman, another Arlen Specter, another Olympia Snowe. He's a throwback to the "bad old days" before Reagan, when the GOP was run by moderate Country Club Republicans who considered conservatives to be extremists. Trying to revive that failed strategy again is likely to lead to a Democratic President in 2008 and numerous setbacks for the Republican Party.
and your Republican choice would be ?
"Rudy will fall apart in the South on abortion and gun control."
Maybe on immigration too. Three strikes you are out.
I wish Cheney could run...
Thanks, doing my best to keep the GOP a party that people from all walks can be part of. It's not easy but it's worth it. Otherwise we will become what we despise.
You're absolutely right! Terrorism is the #1 issue, and the others fall behind that. For terrorism is much more of an immediate problem that should have worldwide concern. But it just seems like there are only a handful of politicians who have a clue as to what this really means. The rest are happily wallowing in the selfish arena...
The Nukeman of Iran totally believes that he is the prophet who has been sent to usher in the 4th Reich. Others on these threads have pretty much said, "Naah, you're just whistlin' dixie." I don't care how real or unreal it all is, the fact of the matter is that the yo-yo in Iran believes it. And I'm thinking he can make many others believe it too.
And actually, we are probably already in the end times. For there are wars and rumors of wars, but nobody needs to fret about the lunatics. Everybody just needs to do their job and put the skids on the creeps. We do whatever we can, and God does the rest...
Norm brings to the table a state that is in a political transition. Minnesota is becoming more conservative all the time. Norm will give us a boost in that area of the country.
The main thing is that we go with a proven conservative. You know the left is going to pick a nut for their nominee. Going with a moderate is a bad idea, especially when it is not necessary to do so. McCain and Rudy are therefore not good options.
The commonly named senators have problems in their home states (for the most part). I say let the left try to win with a senator while we get a governor. Executive experience and no legislative record to pick through is a major advantage.
It is a no brainer to me really.
I will not under any circumstances vote for Jeb Bush. His father was a weak kneed RINO. Despite some great talking points his brother has been a weak kneed elitist RINO who has failed us on very important issues like the border and the budget. I'm not going to be fooled a third time.
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