[Red6]

As to post #19-

Realize that your making my case with the examples your trying to give. What is he really saying? Disengage!

The writer of this article more or less reinforces the concept of appeasement and disengagement. If only Germany stuck its head in the sand, then the Islamists would leave us alone. This thread of thought runs deep in German society. Look at self censorship reference the Mohamed cartoons or during Fasching. The Germans are appeasers. They will only tear their mouth open with the US because they know we won't bomb them. Reference Libya even a few years ago they again were cowering in the corner hoping that if they say nothing and do nothing maybe they will be spared if the situation ignites again as it did in the 80's. But were they in range of those TBM's? Yep

[wolf78]

The joys of anecdotal evidence... ;-).

I bet somewhere in an Islamist forum someone is quoting Henryk M. Broder's "Wir kapitulieren" (Hoorray, we surrender!) from a few days earlier (also Spiegel Online) as proof that Germany is indeed part of the jewish world conspiracy and much worse than even the great Satan US *LOL.

And I'm not saying you're completely wrong. I just want to point out that your line of argument is sometimes sloppy and some of your conclusions premature.

I indeed value your criticism, but I'd much rather have the whole breadth of the problem than just the talking points.