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Is Bush Down for the Count?
NewsMax ^ | 21 August 2006 | John L. Perry

Posted on 08/21/2006 3:30:36 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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To: DustyMoment
The Dems have made a large gamble in the belief that they will be taking over at least one of the houses of Congress this election. If you want to see true "disarray", let's prove the Dems wrong - AGAIN!! - and see how '08 shapes up for them.

I think they're making a huge mistake. Look, they're going to lose on the defense issue, but put that aside. The reason, IMO, Clinton was never removed from office was that people didn't want him removed. They didn't WANT Algore in the hot seat. They didn't WANT the national turmoil we went through with the Nixon resignation. They didn't WANT to rock the boat and screw up the boom times.

I didn't like Clinton, but I didn't want him impeached. I wanted him to quietly serve out his last two years in office. People feel the same way now. Whatever real or imagined crimes W may have committed, we can't afford to have the goovernment tied up in knots right now.

Impeachments are a peacetime pastime, historically. The rats are going to find to their chagrin, that the American People can be very single minded in war. That saying "People vote their pocketbooks" has an essential corollary -- "except in times of war."

The ultimate argument of the left seems to be over whether we're really at war or not. I sure hope we answer the question correctly in November. I think we will.

It takes a long time to turn the Ship of State. I think we forget this, and at our peril.

101 posted on 08/21/2006 3:18:20 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our Time®)
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To: Taxman

You are missing the point. The ones who "borrowed into" the Civil Service were protected by the law. That's why they glommed onto those jobs during the last months of the CLinton Administration. Had he tried to fire them, there would have been a public outcry from the Rats, possible impeachment, and they still would have remained.


102 posted on 08/21/2006 3:31:12 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: ohioWfan

Well, I'm sure the numbers would back me up so it's not really an opinion......and I thought that part of the discussion was the truth about his commitment to fighting terrorism, so I believe it's just as critical to fight terrorism even if it's one person at a time being murdered or robbed because of his failure to deal with the border or those victimized by 9-11.
By comparison, he's done a good job dealing with the fallout of 9-11 but he's failed miserably on dealing with border terrorism.


103 posted on 08/21/2006 3:49:02 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit
So you're now defining robbery as terrorism? Sheesh!

You border-only folks really reach sometimes, you know?

It's off topic, spirit.

But I understand, for a one issue border only guy like you, it's OK to bring up your topic even when discussing the weather in Alaska.

I just know better than to engage in the discussion where it doesn't apply.

Good day, spirit.

104 posted on 08/21/2006 4:25:10 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: american spirit

btw, you can get 'the numbers' to back up anything you want. It's still an opinion.


105 posted on 08/21/2006 4:25:47 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: GretchenM

I don't believe W will back down. I do read burden in his face though. Thank you for catching the need to pray for him.


106 posted on 08/21/2006 4:30:31 PM PDT by Blogger (http://www.propheteuon.com)
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To: Blogger; GretchenM; WVNan
He's OK, guys.........really he is......the Lord is carrying him through.....

(This is today).

107 posted on 08/21/2006 4:43:02 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

What do you call getting held up at gunpoint?.....a chance encounter?.....even you should be able to figure out that anyone that has been held up, beaten or raped would have no problem using the term "terrorized" to describe the experience ......but I'm sure for bushbots like you unless you hear it from Tony Snow or el Rushbo it's probably a little tough to figure it out for yourself.


108 posted on 08/21/2006 5:04:00 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: ohioWfan; truthandlife

I know that the Lord is carrying GW. No doubts about that, and I agree that the "defeated Bush" stance taken in parts of the article is wrong. He's not about to give up, and the Lord does have him.

I just sense, and have sensed for a few weeks that he has something rather heavy on his mind. This article brought that out. It is more than the war. It is more than polls. I don't think it is fear either. But there is a solemnity about him and deep awareness that something very serious is going on . Even in today's presser (which I saw snippets on on Fox News and agree, he is strong) his eyes are sternly serious http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060821/capt.118ecd73afe3489281800024afc41c0f.bush_whhg104.jpg?x=380&y=264&sig=PdwiJUZmuVoMSBGVxqwUBA-- it hasn't gone away. I think maybe that a couple of weeks ago, around the time of those pictures of him leaving church, whatever has burdened him was discovered. I had never seen him arrive at and leave church with that kind of expression. It disturbed me at the time and I commented on it in my prayer that Sunday.

He stands today that it is the Lord and him for it (which he also knows is enough). The media wants to bury him. He doesn't care about that. The Dems are like parasites wanting to drain him. That's play-time for this seasoned politician - so I really don't think that they are the reason. I think it is something more serious, such as the scenario of survival mentioned in the article, that he is facing and in all likelihood this nation is facing.

GWB is not defeated, but it is the call for even more fervent prayer at this time that I sense to be true. These are perilous times and the world is in quite a disarray. Scary if you didn't have the Lord, which we do, and W does. So, we look to the Lord in confident expectation; and lift up our "Moses" whom God raised up - asking the Lord to strengthen, guide, and protect him as he faces up to these challenges that the treasonous media and Dems refuse to acknowledge.


109 posted on 08/21/2006 5:06:41 PM PDT by Blogger (http://www.propheteuon.com)
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To: Aussie Dasher
If he is deserted by his own, he - and we - will be doomed. We must ALL keep the faith!

I've never lost my faith in President Bush.

Sad but true, this saying has been going around in my family for years, and we are 99% Republican..... "Democrats will go to the ends of the earth to cover each other's sorry butt's, but Republican's sometime eat their own".

I still believe that after the dust settles, and a few years go by GW will go down in history as one of the greats.

110 posted on 08/21/2006 5:11:01 PM PDT by LisaMalia
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To: ohioWfan

FYI....."A country that can't control it's borders is NOT a country any longer".....words of wisdom from another "border guy".... a real conservative by the name of Ronald Reagan .....so I guess I'm in good company.


111 posted on 08/21/2006 5:12:06 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit
Robbery is not terrorism. Period.

And the gratuitous insults about those who disagree with you not being able to think independently is old and stale........to say the least.

I especially find it hilarious that you use Rush as an example. I'm smiling as I type this at your complete ignorance of who I am or how I think....

112 posted on 08/21/2006 5:16:20 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: american spirit
Ah yes............quoting Open Border Amnesty Reagan to bash this President.

Smart move.....

Now.... since I refuse to participate in your hijacking of this thread Mr Borderbot, I shall bid you a fond farewell, before you say anything less educated or informed than you already have.....

113 posted on 08/21/2006 5:18:40 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Blogger; WVNan
I understand your point completely, Blogger, and agree. The world situation has never been more dire, and it is likely to get worse before it gets better. And he knows MUCH more than we about what is going on, and that may well account for what you.......and others.........have seen in his eyes.

That's why I also agree that we must pray without ceasing for wisdom and divine guidance for the President.

Few have ever been asked to carry such a great load as this man has. I consider it a kind of 'divine compliment'.........for such a time as this.

May God hide him under the shelter of His wing.

114 posted on 08/21/2006 5:24:24 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Mad Dawg

David took 5 stones with him b/c Goliath had 4 brothers...


115 posted on 08/21/2006 5:33:21 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: bd476

What a terrific post!
Thanks for the ping... which I just now found!


116 posted on 08/21/2006 6:53:45 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; devolve
The President has much to contend with;


117 posted on 08/21/2006 6:58:18 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: ohioWfan

No, it's called sarcasm.

Should have been obvious.


118 posted on 08/21/2006 8:24:43 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Miss Marple

I didn't miss the point at all, Miss Marple. And I know what the law says. HST, Dubya should have hired a good lawyer to figure out a legal way around the law and fired every damn one of them -- whatever it took!

The "Clinton holdovers" have done the Bush Presidency and the country a world of harm!


119 posted on 08/21/2006 8:28:50 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
He was looking pretty happy today. I better not say anything about the hands. I'll let others comment if they choose. ;)


120 posted on 08/21/2006 8:35:49 PM PDT by adam_smith_76
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