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Looking for the Will Beyond the Battlefield
New York Times ^ | August, 20, 2006 | Ben Stein

Posted on 08/20/2006 4:19:26 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE

IT’S been a bitter month or so.

Mighty Israel, the redeemer of faith in what free men and women can do with arid desert if they are motivated, redeemer of faith that maybe there is a place for the Jews as a sovereign people and technological superpower, has been fought to a standstill by Hezbollah.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; patriotism; terrorism

1 posted on 08/20/2006 4:19:27 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE
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To: Jen's Mom
AMERICA: AN ARMY AT WAR, A NATION AT THE MALL.

CC

2 posted on 08/20/2006 4:26:42 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative ("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
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To: Jen's Mom

What will it take to make people realize that this isn't political, it is survival.


3 posted on 08/20/2006 4:26:44 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (My Daughter, My Hero, My Soldier, My Friend)
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To: Jen's Mom
Ben Stein has it right... we want to go back to our pampered lives but we can't. The planet's pathology will end up destroying our existence of spoiled leisure if we don't destroy it first.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

4 posted on 08/20/2006 4:30:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jen's Mom

Israel chose to fight a limited war( 0xymoron), worrying about their image in the world.

If the Arabs choose to kill Israelis at random , turnabout is fair play.


5 posted on 08/20/2006 4:31:51 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Jen's Mom

We are witnessing the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life collective in the history of civilization.


6 posted on 08/20/2006 4:50:28 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Jen's Mom
Mighty Israel, the redeemer of faith in what free men and women can do with arid desert if they are motivated, redeemer of faith that maybe there is a place for the Jews as a sovereign people and technological superpower, has been fought to a standstill by Hezbollah.

I'd like to know how close to true is the final statement. How many Hezbollah were killed and how much of their weaponry was destroyed unused, vs. Israeli casualties? Somehow I don't believe that thy were "fought to a standstill". Had that been the case there wouldn't have been all that whining from the left for a cease fire to let them rest and re-arm.

7 posted on 08/20/2006 6:41:34 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Jen's Mom

More important than who fights this war is the political will to fight it. That is heavily influenced by the global media which is demonstrably biased and corrupt and undermines nearly every effort to fight this war. It's a problem about 60 years in the making that has lead to a pro-Islamic, anti-Israel, anti-West bias that has helped radicalize much of the rest of the world. We won't even begin to truly fight this war until we address the media issue. Until then, we will continue to fight with one hand tied behind our back.


8 posted on 08/20/2006 12:07:46 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

It's not just the media.

It's , as Stein puts it in this piece, the entire "ruling class". Wall Street, Hollywood, the Academy; all are actively hostile to the notion that we're in a fight for our lives, or that our culture is even worth fighting for.

"Everyone with the really big money at stake is — again — bidding for the best deck chairs as the iceberg looms, not so far, any longer, under the surface, and very large and very cold and very solid."


9 posted on 08/20/2006 12:20:32 PM PDT by absalom01 (Cynthia McKinney: One of the most intelligent Democrats in the country.)
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To: absalom01
Because the "ruling class" is influenced by the propaganda they get from the media - they are the consumers of the NYT and alike. And I'm not just talking about the American media, I am talking about the global media which functions much of the time as part the official communications arm of the Islamofacists. Why? Read this

Who cares if they join the military? That's like saying the people in the roles now are incapable or somehow not part of the "best and brightest" of this country. That's a conclusion based on no evidence whatsoever and completely contrary to my own experience.

The problem is, the people in the military aren't allowed to do their jobs due to political constraints. Those constraints are set up by the media and their allies in congress and the courts.

Can you imagine how different things would be if the media today behaved anything like the media during WWII?

The problem isn't capability or competence it's political will. Those in the military have the will and the tools what they lack is the support of the political leaders and the American public. The role the media plays in undermining that will can not be over emphasized.

10 posted on 08/20/2006 12:45:08 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Jen's Mom

I would gladly embrace gas rationing, food rationing, curfews, and blackouts for an all-out, once-and-for-all, never-again war against terrorists and their nanny states. At least we'd have something to b**** about around the coffee pot.


11 posted on 08/20/2006 2:43:16 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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