Bomb found at Tucson Safeway Store

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1 posted on 08/19/2006 11:30:28 PM PDT by silentknight

To: silentknight; NinoFan

I managed to see Nino Fan's post before the other thread was pulled.

Canada had a similar event?

2 posted on 08/19/2006 11:31:56 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)

To: silentknight

ok I just posted this too in its own thread, but ya beat me to it so I asked for mine to be pulled

3 posted on 08/19/2006 11:33:22 PM PDT by NinoFan

To: silentknight

Unsettling news. I just got home from the Fry's grocery store here in Gilbert, AZ. IIRC, Fry's is part of Kroger, and I was also in a Safeway store earlier today. I'm buying a three-day supply of groceries tomorrow, just in case Iranian agents have something planned for 8/22, which will fall on Monday night here in Arizona. It's highly unlikely that anything will happen here on 8/21 or 8/22, but I usually buy groceries during the weekend, so tomorrow I'm buying a 3-day supply.

What an odd conincidence that a bomb was also found in Canada, and right after home-grown British terrorists tried to blow up a few jetliners over the Atlantic. I'm sure the FBI will say none of this is connected.

4 posted on 08/19/2006 11:34:59 PM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)

To: silentknight

Pretty scary stuff. Notice they said it wouldn't have gone off on its own. Makes me wonder about those guys buying cell phones they were looking for in Tucson... (I know, I know, it's just them buying to resell.. nothing to worry about. )

5 posted on 08/19/2006 11:35:57 PM PDT by NinoFan

To: silentknight

And Tucson was one of the places with the unusual cell phone buying recently.

6 posted on 08/19/2006 11:36:14 PM PDT by good old days

To: good old days

7 posted on 08/19/2006 11:36:31 PM PDT by NinoFan

8 posted on 08/19/2006 11:40:42 PM PDT by good old days

To: good old days

Having lived in Tucson for four years...I can attest to the fact that there are a number of certified "nuts" in the city and the story doesn't surprise me. From the environmental nuts to the Vietnam war Vets...there seems to be a magnet to draw these guys to the city and they seem to all fit in...and carry on their agenda.

9 posted on 08/19/2006 11:44:07 PM PDT by pepsionice

To: silentknight

Tucson terrorist connections:

Hani Hanjour: Piloted American Airlines Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon. He attended the UA, studying English in 1991. He also lived in Mesa and took aviation classes in Scottsdale.
Mubarak al Duri: A native of Iraq who lived in Tucson in the late 1980s. He procured weapons of mass destruction for Osama bin Laden.
Muhammad Bayazid: Lived in Tucson at one time. He was an arms procurer and trainer for al-Qaida.
Wadi el-Hage: Was believed to be bin Laden's personal assistant. Federal officials say there was evidence el-Hage helped a man who was conducting surveillance on Muslim Sheik Rashad Khalifa, who was assassinated in Tucson in 1990. He is serving a life prison term for his part in the bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa.
Wa'el Jelaidan: Co-founded al-Qaida with bin Laden in the late '80s. State records show he was president of the Islamic Center of Tucson from 1984 to '85. He left Tucson in 1986 and was believed to have gone to Afghanistan to help repel the Soviet Union's invasion.
Muhammad Al-Qudhai'een: Was a UA student before 9/11. He was handcuffed and removed from an America West Airlines jet in Columbus, Ohio, after jiggling the cockpit door in 1999. He later sued the airline, but the lawsuit was dismissed. He was deported to Saudi Arabia.

The Arizona connection

Nawaf Al-Hazmi: A 9/11 hijacker on the plane that hit the Pentagon. He lived with Hanjour in Mesa in 2000 and 2001.
Salem al-Hazmi: May be Nawaf Al-Hazmi's brother, but that isn't certain.
Abdullah Rayed Abdullah or Rayed Mohammed Abdullah: A former roommate of Hanjour's. He attended flight school in Arizona and was a leader at the Islamic Cultural Center of Phoenix.
Bandar al-Hazmi: Lived with Hanjour in Mesa and attended language school with him in Florida. Also, al-Hazmi trained at Arizona Aviation with Hanjour.
Faisal Al-Salmi: Was convicted in February 2002 of lying to the FBI when he denied knowing Hanjour. He and Hanjour were registered at the same time to use a flight simulator at a Phoenix flight school.
Ghassen al Sharbi: Studied at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott. He was captured in March 2002 in Pakistan with a senior al-Qaida official.
Hamdan Alshalawi or Hamdan Al-Shalawi: An ASU student, he was with Muhammad Al-Qudhai'een when they were removed from an America West jet in 1999 after touching the cockpit door.
Hamed al-Sulami: Lived in Tempe in 1999 and 2000. He was an associate of Hanjour's in Arizona, and the FBI said he had telephone contact with Sulayman al Alwan, a radical Saudi cleric from Qassim province who may have had a role in recruiting hijackers.
Malek Seif: Knew Hanjour from a mosque in Tempe and practiced piloting on a flight simulator in Phoenix. He has been convicted in Phoenix of fraud and using a false identity.
Zakaria Soubra: A former Prescott aviation student. He was an Arizona recruiter for a militant Islamic group and was named in a pre-Sept. 11 FBI memo written by an FBI agent. He was arrested on a visa violation and deported to Lebanon in May 2003, after testifying to a federal grand jury in Virginia.

10 posted on 08/19/2006 11:44:28 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)

The problem with the liberals' reselling theory is there's no place anywhere near Tucson where someone could resell a cell phone for much more than the price at Wal-Mart or another deep discounter. The only possible exception I can think of is perhaps Mexico, if there's some kind of heavy tax on disposable cell phones down there. But nobody is going to drive from LA to Tucson and back to resell cell phones, when they can buy them for almost the same price as the Tucscon price at a store in Ontario, CA or Palmdale, CA, or another inland CA city.

11 posted on 08/19/2006 11:45:33 PM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)

They will send National Guards to the airports without clips and they'll send cops to protect the mosques.

12 posted on 08/19/2006 11:46:11 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)

13 posted on 08/19/2006 11:46:53 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)

I heard the guard carries ammo for their hand guns but not for rifles when they're on airport duty. Is that incorrect?

14 posted on 08/19/2006 11:50:01 PM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)

Bombings happen more often than folks want to consider. Arson and bombs happen more than once a week.

Check the FBI bombing statistics - in 1998 (last year I could easily find) Actual - 1,225 explosive events and 427 incendiary events. Attempted -- 504 explosive, 185 incendiary.

As a DR guy it is something I check for clients when doing a site risk analysis.

You can check your local PD or fire Dept for events in your area.

I'll sleep well on the 21st - no raghead is going to bother me.....

15 posted on 08/19/2006 11:52:03 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)

To: silentknight

Whoops - didnt see there was a more complete thread.

A fake bomb as it turned out - somebody used modelling clay so the thing would even look real on an XRay. Destroyed it finally with a high-pressure water blast.

16 posted on 08/19/2006 11:54:42 PM PDT by AzSteven

I dunno. I remember the photo... no clips in their rifles.

17 posted on 08/19/2006 11:54:51 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)

Great work! I suppose you don't belong to the MSM or

the DU.

18 posted on 08/19/2006 11:57:25 PM PDT by ChiMark

To: AzSteven; pepsionice

Interesting...well post #16 certainly fits your "Tucscon nuts" theory to the letter. Only a nut case would make a fake bomb, and only a truly crazy person or a terrorist builds a real bomb.

19 posted on 08/19/2006 11:59:29 PM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)

To: AzSteven; silentknight; NinoFan; onyx; pepsionice; defenderSD; All

I'm confused. Is there a link saying that the Tucson incident was fake? The TV news report said that the police used explosives to disable the bomb three times and they showed them doing it. Then I did a search and found the story that was referred to earlier in the thread by onyx and defenderSD about something similar happening at a Safeway in Canada and that one did mention a water cannon being used on a fake bomb.

20 posted on 08/20/2006 12:31:30 AM PDT by good old days

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