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As the Auto Age Dawned, Gasoline Wasn't King
Washington Post ^ | August 13, 2006 | Steven Levingston

Posted on 08/19/2006 7:56:28 PM PDT by nicollo

As the Auto Age Dawned, Gasoline Wasn't King

By Steven Levingston Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, August 13, 2006; F01

D.H. Killeffer had a dire warning for gasoline-greedy Americans. The chemical engineer had crunched the numbers -- he compared the country's production of crude oil with its thirst for gasoline. "Estimates based on the most complete data now available place the end of our gasoline supply between ten and twenty years, with the odds in favor of ten rather than twenty," Killeffer, secretary of the New York division of the American Chemical Society, wrote in the New York Times.

The year was 1925.

Gasoline-powered travel was still new enough, Killeffer thought, that it was possible to break an incipient addiction to the fuel. "The general public is not necessarily committed to the gasoline-operated automobile for its transportation," he wrote. "It need not worry if it should become more economical in the future to fall back on steam or on electricity to get itself and its goods from one place to another. Even horses might again come into use in such a way as to supply the necessary transportation."

As a first recourse, Killeffer urged the auto industry to improve the efficiency of its engines. But because, as he said, "the end of petroleum and of gasoline as we now know them is imminent," he also encouraged a wide-ranging exploration for the best alternative fuel. He placed his bet on alcohol-powered engines.

Killeffer, obviously, was no prophet. But he stands as a telling symbol of where we have been and, it seems, where we will always be: fretting about the supply of gasoline and which fuel, if any, can provide a cheaper and more plentiful alternative.

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KEYWORDS: automobiles; energy; gascrisis; gasoline; oil; peakoil
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The author seems to have picked up on my blog of June 5 Why the world needs automotive historians (gasoline, steam -- or corn?, which set out to correct the notion out in the press that with automobiles gasoline didn't have to be, that there might have been an alternative that was squashed by some vested interest in it.

So he sought me out, and I assisted with the article, but not so as to correct some of the problems in it. (Basically, my ideas didn't jibe with his thesis.) Nevertheless, the writer was earnest and honest, and it's a good article. It shows, however, how quick looks at history can be misleading. He came up with the idea for the article after discovering in the historical newspaper databases a 1925 pronouncement of the coming end of petroleum fields. Not knowing the context of 1925, he made some poor assumptions. In 1924, for example, the government announced that national oil production was down from the previous year. This alarmed many into thinking the oil had run out, whereas the real cause was lower prices following the 1920 depression and the introduction of cheap CA oil, both of which suppressed extraction in the East and Midwest.

As for why gasoline, the Post writer set it straight with this, coming from me:

"Against competing technologies, gasoline ultimately won because it was inherently a more useful form of storing energy," said Michael L. Bromley, a automobile historian in Bethesda.

Freepers will note that the (com)Post article does not mention the, perhaps, greatest oil-running-out prediction, Hubbert's 1956 "peak oil" theory. The Post writer deliberately limited his discussion to the 1920s and before. We've had plenty enough discussions of peak oil here, so Freepers ought to be plenty familiar with that theory.

One comment about it: peak oil does not accommodate price reactions to/from supply, so it serves no other purpose than, right or wrong, to define when a particular oil field has "peaked." It says nothing about the usefulness of petroleum or its alternatives. For that, see my blog, as per the above link.

1 posted on 08/19/2006 7:56:29 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: nicollo

Come October, watch for Diesel cars to get a big push. And watch for Honda's diesel. They could possibly change how history looks at diesel engines; as being clean burning and better than gasoline engines.


2 posted on 08/19/2006 7:58:28 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: nicollo
pretty sure it was Diesel, that said that first thing oil companies did, was to create shortage

they had to find a way to increase prices for stuff that was bubbling from peoples farms

the rest is as they say future traders wet dreams
3 posted on 08/19/2006 7:58:39 PM PDT by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: nicollo
Good thing someone didn't invent the internal combustion engine in the 1700's, oil (and gasoline) was really scarce then!
4 posted on 08/19/2006 8:03:36 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Good thing someone didn't invent the internal combustion engine in the 1700's...........

If they had, we'd have run out much sooner and would now be back to the horse and buggy.9?Luddite)

5 posted on 08/19/2006 8:05:25 PM PDT by umgud (Do moderate muslims luv us infidels and Jews?.... Didn't think so.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
Come October, watch for Diesel cars to get a big push. And watch for Honda's diesel. They could possibly change how history looks at diesel engines; as being clean burning and better than gasoline engines.

The enviros will kill it, just like they kill any other diesel out there. About 15 years ago the ford ranger was available with a diesel. Got 55mpg on the highway and 40 around town. Environazis killed it off quick.

6 posted on 08/19/2006 8:09:18 PM PDT by bad company (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks his closet for FReeper kanawa)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

What is the supposed advantage with diesel? Does it take less crude to make a gallon?


7 posted on 08/19/2006 8:11:12 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: umgud
I am to young to remember, but horses taking a dump all over the place could not have been an environmentalists paradise!
8 posted on 08/19/2006 8:15:20 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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To: bad company

No they won't. New EPA rules regarding the formulation for diesel take effect. Many car companies, including Honda, have ultra clean burning diesel engines that you won't even know are running diesel (no smog or clanking diesel sounds that we associate with diesel engines).


9 posted on 08/19/2006 8:20:18 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: bad company
Got 55mpg on the highway and 40 around town. Environazis killed it off quick.

That's because THEY didn't need it.

10 posted on 08/19/2006 8:22:02 PM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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To: Larry Lucido

ADvantages include better gas mileage( 20-30% better than gas), no additives like gas (ethanol) and much better torque than gas. Honda says that their diesel will comply with Cali's strict requirements. It's my hope that diesel makes hybrids obsolete.


11 posted on 08/19/2006 8:22:32 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

All I remember about the Olds Cutlass diesel I bought from my folks in 1983 was that is was useless in Detroit in January unless I could garage it or park near an electrical outlet. Is climate still an issue with the current generation of diesels?

I do remember that it was otherwise largely maintenance free as long as you changed the oil regularly.


12 posted on 08/19/2006 8:27:21 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

I don't know about extreme weather...i am sure with really cold weather it could but that's the same with gas engines (hence why they sell heater blocks). But, you'll save fuel when you drive to AA during the Winter to get deli at Zingermans.

And may U of Mi actually win more than 7 games this year and win their bowl game.


13 posted on 08/19/2006 8:33:41 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: nicollo

Innerestin'


14 posted on 08/19/2006 8:34:49 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
deli at Zingermans

Making a note to check it out next time.

15 posted on 08/19/2006 8:35:08 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: nicollo
There is research going on involving producing bio-diesel fuel from algae. Others are working on a process of turning sewage, packing house waste and other nasty substances into bio-diesel. There are already trucks and cars running on fuel made from discarded restaurant frying oil.
16 posted on 08/19/2006 8:35:17 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Diesel was king in 1979/80, but only because gasoline was artificially expensive then. It wasn't just the enviros that killed it. The technology, the distribution, the makers... it just wasn't its time.

As you say, small diesel engines are now more efficient and clean, but they can only displace gasoline in part and cannot replace gasoline entirely. Diesle's a good and getting better alternative for gasoline, but it's not a replacement for it, and not anymore than hybrids pretend to be.

As in politics and love, with motor fuel it's never enough to be the "alternative." Gasoline is still it.


17 posted on 08/19/2006 8:37:59 PM PDT by nicollo (All economics are politics)
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To: nicollo

I don't expect Diesel to over take gasoline. The gas engine still has a long way to go. It's just not as efficient as a diesel engine. Like I said, keep a watch for Honda, which happens to be the cleanest and largest engine manufacturer in the world.


18 posted on 08/19/2006 8:40:56 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: umgud

The important thing is that reserves only extend 20 years ahead of time. There is no incentive to spend money now to find oil that you will need 21 years in the future. There is an incentive to spend money to find oil that you will need 10 years from now.

That is why for the last 80 years we have between 10 and 20 years of proven oil reserves, and will probably have 10 to 20 years of reserves for the next 80 years.

Coal can be hydrogenated to produce oil, but that doesn't count towards oil reserves.


19 posted on 08/19/2006 8:41:47 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: nicollo
... Killeffer, secretary of the New York division of the American Chemical Society, wrote in the New York Times.
The year was 1925.

The good ole New York Times, always incorrect, inconsequential, but not often informative.

20 posted on 08/19/2006 8:42:42 PM PDT by roadcat
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