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Troops long out-of-uniform sent to Iraq
AP ^ | 19 Aug 06 | REBECCA SANTANA, AP Writer

Posted on 08/19/2006 2:54:04 PM PDT by leadpenny

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1 posted on 08/19/2006 2:54:06 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Wasnt Kerry on IRR status when he was negotiating with the enemy?


2 posted on 08/19/2006 3:01:27 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: leadpenny

I bet they cashed their reserve checks......


3 posted on 08/19/2006 3:01:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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This is tough but they did sign the contract and it so states you can be called back to active duty if the service sees the need. guess they do.The guys in WW2 deployed overseas and never saw home until the war was over.It could be worse and we do not need the draft!


4 posted on 08/19/2006 3:02:32 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You don't get paid on IRR status.


5 posted on 08/19/2006 3:03:57 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: CharlesWayneCT

" but they don't train, draw a paycheck or associate in any other way with the military. "

Reading is Fundamental!


6 posted on 08/19/2006 3:04:57 PM PDT by dakine
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To: CharlesWayneCT
they generally still have time left on their contract with the military that is known as "inactive ready reserve" status, or IRR. During that time, they have to let their service know their current address, but they don't train, draw a paycheck or associate in any other way with the military.

Still, it's part of the contract. If you read the article, like I did, you'll find that some of those quoted recognise that fact, and aren't complaining.

7 posted on 08/19/2006 3:05:10 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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It is a 6 year hitch when you sign up. Everyone knows it, it is not hidden.

GE
8 posted on 08/19/2006 3:05:24 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: imahawk

You're right. They voluneered knowing the risks. Still, I'm sure it is a real pain to have this come up.

AP just had to throw out that 'backdoor draft' as a brown nose affirmation to the socialists.


9 posted on 08/19/2006 3:06:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

IRR does not get paid. Hence the "inactive" part.

Fact is, they signed for 8years commitment, no matter how many active duty or active reserve years their contract was for. That's where IRR soldiers come from. But they do not get paid, and historically IRR soldiers do not get called back except in rare cases. They're needed so they got called, but your uninformed remark about them getting paid implies they didn't intend to do their duty, and based on this article that isn't true.


10 posted on 08/19/2006 3:07:09 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: leadpenny

This article is from crAP ... it is an anti-American, fearmongering hit-piece directed at the US Army, with the obvious intention of weakening the war effort by undermining morale in both the military and civilian sectors.


11 posted on 08/19/2006 3:07:25 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: leadpenny

May God bless and protect all of them.


12 posted on 08/19/2006 3:08:38 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: imahawk
The guys in WW2 deployed overseas and never saw home until the war was over.It could be worse and we do not need the draft!

Yes, and a lot of those WWII guys got called back in during the Korean war too.

13 posted on 08/19/2006 3:09:18 PM PDT by calex59 (Hillary Clinton is dumber than a one eyed monkey with a brain tumor(credit to Harley69))
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Yes, and a lot of those WWII guys got called back in during the Korean war too.
I didn't realize that. I knew that men served in both wars, I just didn't know about the IRR part.
14 posted on 08/19/2006 3:11:01 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: ArrogantBustard

THanks to ALL of you who corrected me. And yes, reading would be a good idea. :-)


15 posted on 08/19/2006 3:20:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: leadpenny

If you retire from the military (20 years+), you are subject to recall until age 60.


16 posted on 08/19/2006 3:21:32 PM PDT by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: GrandEagle

I believe it went to 8 years in the 90's


17 posted on 08/19/2006 3:23:37 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: calex59
My dad and uncle both volunteered for serve in WWII. Uncle was almost killed in the Anzio debacle - and after he was release from hospital. they sent him to England to drive a fire truck - no "magic scratch" back in the day.

Then they were both drafted in '51 for duty in ROK.

Dad is still not real happy with the Army today - some about paid Reserves sitting on their collective asses while folks got drafted.... Unc was a little maore laid back, he got put 'back' into the USAF at a stateside base.

More recently a fiend of the family got stopped loss-ed and sent on another tour to Iraq. His family didn't understand as "the Army has met all recruiting goals" so why the back-door draft?

I'm a vet & this does not make a lot sense to me either.

18 posted on 08/19/2006 3:23:38 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Yes. On the other hand, you might also say that he was actually serving his true duty when he met with the communists, carried their water, denigrated his fellow (American) soldiers, conspired with anti-American forces and entered into a career of being a leftist crapweasel. As a communist stooge, he served his chosen goals admirably.


19 posted on 08/19/2006 3:27:25 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Yeah, I've got an axe to grind...what else would you use on Leftists?)
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To: Lokibob

Actually it is up to 30 years total service. IOW, I retired in 99 after 21 yrs, six months. I am subject to recall until roughly 2008. Unless they changed it while I wasn't looking.


20 posted on 08/19/2006 3:27:27 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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