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Johnson: Karr may be crazy, but he's not the right man
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 8/19/06 | Bill Johnson

Posted on 08/19/2006 1:44:20 PM PDT by Huntress

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To: Huntress

Yes John Mark Karr is wack and yes he is delusional. I’m trying not to rush to judgment here or jumping to conclusions because I’d rather think this known pedophile did it rather than the parents, but he could still be guilty and still be delusional.

It is possible that after ten years, he’s reinvented his memory of the events whether he actually did it or not; his fantasizing about picking her up from school and it being an accident has now become his reality.

And the ex? Well she’d have no reason to come to his defense except she was a child herself when he married her and she bore his children as a child herself. What if she was drawn into his pedophilia either as a willing partner or an observer to other crimes?

She and his first child bride describe him as controlling and manipulative.

And then there’s more confusing and possibly contradictory evidence in the ransom note and a yearbook entry Karr made years earlier.

“The yearbook entry ends with Karr writing in capital block letters, "Though, deep in the future, maybe I shall be the conquerer and live in multiple peace."

“A ransom note found in the Ramsey home ended with the word "Victory!" and was signed "S.B.T.C." Authorities want to know whether those letters might stand for "shall be the conquerer" and whether they could have been written by the same person”.


21 posted on 08/19/2006 4:15:15 PM PDT by Caramelgal (There can be no happiness if the things we believe in are different from the things we do.)
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To: comeon
Wouldn't you remember if your husband was around or not during Christmas holidays?

I can't stand my ex-husband, and would vouch for him for very little, but I can tell without a doubt that we were together every Christmas. I would have remembered if there were any he missed.

22 posted on 08/19/2006 4:48:09 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Huntress

It aint over till the fat lady sings. Her song is going to be about DNA.


23 posted on 08/19/2006 5:19:01 PM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: Huntress
I'm not even waiting for the DNA tests to come back. I know the guy didn't do it.

I'm not sure how some law enforcement groups may act in all cases, but:

These folks out in Colorado, knowing this guy is a real threat to children and that he has done bad things to them already, if the DNA DOES NOT match, I wouldn't put it past them to say that it did match.

We would never know.

24 posted on 08/20/2006 12:48:15 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: Huntress
"How do I know? Her name is Lara Knutson, the divorced wife of John Mark Karr and the mother of his children. On Friday, she publicly said the guy was with her and the kids in Alabama on Christmas Day 1996, that they hardly had anything, much less money for a trip to Colorado. Now, ex-wives will say and do a lot of things, but trust me, the last thing they'd ever do is risk jail time to provide your sorry backside with a phony alibi."

Bingo

25 posted on 08/20/2006 12:49:36 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: dsc

The guy was doing research on the case........ trying to write a book on the case. He should know a lot.


26 posted on 08/20/2006 12:52:08 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: comeon
Wouldn't you remember if your husband was around or not during Christmas holidays? Especially if you have little kids.

Right.

27 posted on 08/20/2006 12:55:41 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: Caramelgal
his fantasizing about picking her up from school

On Christmas Day?

28 posted on 08/20/2006 12:58:05 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: Caramelgal
“The yearbook entry ends with Karr writing in capital block letters, "Though, deep in the future, maybe I shall be the conquerer and live in multiple peace." “A ransom note found in the Ramsey home ended with the word "Victory!" and was signed "S.B.T.C." Authorities want to know whether those letters might stand for "shall be the conquerer" and whether they could have been written by the same person”.

That is very interesting.

29 posted on 08/20/2006 12:59:40 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: beyond the sea

I was on the fence about Karr being the real killer until I saw the shot of the yearbook entry on TV. I don't know about you, but I have never had (or known) anyone to write in a yearbook "shall be the conqueror". The odds of this being purely coincidental are astronomical


30 posted on 08/20/2006 5:49:06 AM PDT by flair2000
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31 posted on 08/20/2006 5:55:09 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: flair2000
The "Victory" on the ransom note more or less clarifies it. He can make the initials mean whatever he says they mean at this point. We know he lies! We know he's wierd. And we know that he thinks "he's really, really clever".

The Ransom note makes no sense. You don't leave a "critically placed" ransom note when the victim is already dead.....

But put it with his latest "Live camera" statement: "It was an accident" and it's one of those "See, I never intended to kill her. The note is proof."

He went on to say "That makes it 2nd degree not 1st degree murder".

He didn't think the note out carefully enough. The note was to prove that "he was smarter and more powerful than John Ramsey" by killing what he loved most. VICTORY

There is no sign of any "love" for Jonbenet in the ransom note.

32 posted on 08/20/2006 6:45:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Huntress

"What's more, the coroner finds not a trace of either semen on or drugs in the girl. "


I thought they did find DNA in her pants.


33 posted on 08/20/2006 6:52:01 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: A knight without armor
Lee says the DNA might be from a sneeze and picked up from the store where they bought the clothes.

Apparently Lee doesn't know that most of us wash new clothes before we wear them (with exceptions).

I think they are Karr's tears and he was "crying" at his own horror......Suwart said the suspect described the encounter as a "BLUR".

From the yearbook:"Sometimes, so BLURRED by my own eyes, I've seen the best things come and go simultaneously".

I think I remember them saying that it looked like her private area was wiped off....that makes sense for tears...

34 posted on 08/20/2006 7:05:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: flair2000; beyond the sea

If the SBTC thing was really a trope with him, he will have left it in multiple places down the years. Nutjobs always do. The phrase "multiple peace," though, makes bells ring and sirens sound.


35 posted on 08/20/2006 10:19:21 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
The phrase "multiple peace," though, makes bells ring and sirens sound.

LOL.... not to be glib, but I know Iran's Ahmadinejad hates that phrase these days.

;-)

36 posted on 08/20/2006 10:50:46 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: comeon
The old suspicions about Karr, 41, emerged Friday as one of his former wives combed through old family photos, mementos and financial records to establish whether Karr was with his family on Dec. 26, 1996, the day the girl's battered body was discovered. Karr told reporters this week that he was with JonBenet when she died. Michael Rains, an attorney for Lara Knutson, who was married to Karr for a dozen years until late 2001, said Friday that she is looking for tangible evidence to reinforce -- or perhaps refute -- her memory that her then-husband spent that day after Christmas with her and their three sons in Alabama, where they lived at the time.

If you'd read the article, she's not changing her story at all. She's in search of actual proof now instead of going with her initial impression.

37 posted on 08/20/2006 1:52:58 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Sacajaweau
FYI

CBS News: DNA Rules Out Parents The crime lab has two spots of JonBenet’s blood found on the underwear she was wearing the night of the murder. Mixed in with that blood is the DNA of an unknown person. It has taken years to isolate, but forensic scientists in Colorado now have a complete DNA profile of the killer. They know the killer is a male. What they don’t know is his name.

Augustin and Gray are convinced that the DNA sample belongs to JonBenet’s killer, because of a small amount of matching DNA that also was found under the 6-year-old murder victim’s fingernails.

38 posted on 08/20/2006 4:55:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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Thanks much. That's exactly what I wanted to know.


39 posted on 08/20/2006 5:22:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau; hoosiermama

general info on what was found in her panties is here...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jonbenet2.html

bottom of second paragraph


40 posted on 08/20/2006 5:59:40 PM PDT by stlnative
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