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Al-Aqsa: We learned missiles subdue Israel
Ynet News ^ | 08.18.06, 01:14 | Ali Waked

Posted on 08/19/2006 6:43:19 AM PDT by rickylc

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To: claudiustg

"that Hezbollah and Lebanon are joined at the hip,"

Not only this, but statements like those in this article show that it is one large concerted Islamofascist force, Iran, Syria, hezzies, hamas, all the same entity.

Their bold comments reveal them for who they really are.

There is no question anymore of fighting for a palestinian state, the cards are all on the table and the sides of the battle are easily seen for who they really are and what they really want.


41 posted on 08/19/2006 12:31:32 PM PDT by rickylc
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To: claudiustg
In my opinion Hamas and Hezbollah have screwed them Pals out of a state for another generation at least, perhaps for good.

The Pallies don't care. They don't want a state; they want Israel exterminated.

A very important distinction...

42 posted on 08/19/2006 12:34:08 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: ClaireSolt

Power and Control Blog, 8-19-2006
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/

Saturday, August 19, 2006
A Shorter Aftermath

The long version of what happened in Lebanon is in Aftermath. The short version of what happened in Lebanon is: it was a spoiling attack designed to destroy Iranian deterrence. Deterrence rests on fear. In this case the fear of barrages of cheap rockets. The Iranians have found out that you can't scare the Israelis on the cheap.

Michael Totten has some good pictures of the aftermath in Israel.

Real military powers have Air Forces. Every body else in this world is just a bunch of wannabes.

So how about a couple of questions. The Israeli Air Force can buzz Damascus with impunity. What would happen if the Syrian Airforce buzzed Haifa?

The Israeli Airforce with in flight refueling (they have and use the tankers) can reach Iran. Can the Iranian Airfoce reach Israel? What would happen if they did?

The Israeli Airforce is making Bekaa runs. Have the rocket barrages or the ground war restarted?

Now tell me who won.

In 22 August I talk about what kind of nuclear rocket attack from Iran is possible and what the Israeli response is likely to be. Short version. Leaflet a city and then nuke it. Or bomb a few nuke production installations.

Update: 19 Aug '06 1732z

Slightly OT: The Canadians are blaming Hizbollah for starting the war.


43 posted on 08/19/2006 12:37:51 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Cheburashka

I'm surprised there hasn't already been a vote of no confidence.


44 posted on 08/19/2006 1:37:14 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: rickylc
According to John Bachelor this is rumored to be the group that has the Fox reporters.
45 posted on 08/19/2006 1:39:25 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: okie01

Let them broadcast from Lebanon. Let them broadcast from Syria. Let them broadcast from Iran.

Americans will not buy it. What they do buy is the MSM broadcasting from Israel and saying, "over to you in Beirut Jonathan."

Then ghood ole Jonathan gives us the Hezzy side of the story which makes it seem like there is equality. There isn't. They want to destroy Israel.


46 posted on 08/19/2006 2:06:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("If you liked what Liberal Leadership did for Israel, you'll LOVE what it can do for America!")
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To: rickylc

Well, only time will tell. Saddly, the fight has just been postponed. And you are right, that the next time, Israel will be playing for all the marbles... their own existance. But we'll see.


47 posted on 08/19/2006 2:09:15 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: thoughtomator
I'm surprised there hasn't already been a vote of no confidence.
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I expect the opposition isn't sure it can win yet. Some countries have laws or rules that restrict how often the opposition can call for no-confidence votes to keep it from becoming a daily harassing tactic. I don't know what the laws/rules in Israel are.

Politicians alway ask "How will this affect ME?" A new election effects the Knesset members in the ruling coalition very directly. A successful no confidence vote will mean new elections. I expect that new elections will mean a slaughter at the polls for the coalition parties, which means the members are out of a job. There's a very real temptation to back Olmert no matter what.

A year from now maybe the electoral chances for the left-wing parties will look better. Maybe Olmert will get his s--- together in time for the next war. And at least you'll have drawn a paycheck for a year. So the Left-wing Knesset member crosses his finger and backs Olmert no matter what. This all has to play out.
48 posted on 08/19/2006 3:09:25 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: ClaireSolt

Claire, you don't need to beg my pardon.

But you do need to stop and see what is really happening.

Your false sense of optimism is only exceeded by your firm lack of a grasp on reality.

Control of the skies didn't keep 116 Israeli soldiers from dying in ground combat. And Hezbos is still in control of firing positions into Israel.

Let's just agree to disagree.


49 posted on 08/19/2006 4:04:53 PM PDT by exit82 (If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
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To: exit82

What a creep! You don't get agree to disagree after this kind of antagonism. "Your false sense of optimism is only exceeded by your firm lack of a grasp on reality."


50 posted on 08/19/2006 4:28:54 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: rickylc
What Hizballah did was UNSEAT Olmert from power..
BiBi will not be quite so nice when the next scrimmage happens..
Damascus will NOT remain untouched..

Damascus is Hizballah Central..

51 posted on 08/19/2006 4:56:39 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Oh, I see. You're making the rules.

But at least I did not call you any names.

We had this disagreement on another thread last week. There was no need to rekindle it.

We don't agree. There are worse things.


52 posted on 08/19/2006 9:00:13 PM PDT by exit82 (If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
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To: rickylc

The Israelis aren't the only ones who can learn the wrong lessons from a war.

The Israelis tried to learn from US operations in Iraq, by avoiding deep penetrations that would allow the Hezbollah to attack their flanks and supply lines. That explained the Israeli frontal attacks on Hezbollah built up areas, and the lack of supply forces for the forward fighters.

This approach kept Israel from using their mobility advantage to cut off the Hezbollah, and prevent them from withdrawing.

The Israelis are about to field new missile defense forces. The Arabs will be behind again.


53 posted on 08/19/2006 9:02:58 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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