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BBC Feminist's Sordid Suicide Pact Made Public
LifeSite ^ | 9/15/06 | Hilary White

Posted on 08/18/2006 2:44:39 PM PDT by madprof98

LONDON, August 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – This week, a popular BBC radio announcer told the public that she had entered into a “suicide pact” with friends should she be incapacitated by illness.

Jenni Murray, the presenter of BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour, a feminist and euthanasia advocate, said that she does not want to be “trapped” into caring for her mother who is ill with Parkinson’s disease.

Murray, a member of the Order of the British Empire and a patron of the Family Planning Association, is airing her views tonight on a BBC television program called “Don’t Get Me Started.” Publicity material for the show says that Murray “plans to end her own life when she becomes a burden to those around her.” She discusses methods, including smothering with a pillow or injecting with drugs, with two friends,

The network said: "Jenni is angry that, having fought so hard to become liberated and independent, women are now being trapped into caring for dependent parents."

Murray complains that the law against assisted suicide is supported by a “religious minority” who hold to an outdated moral view that human life is inherently valuable and that children have a legitimate obligation to care for elderly parents.

The program highlights the growth, especially in Britain, of the idea of an “obligation to die.” Most leading thinkers in the bioethics field endorse euthanasia and assisted suicide and often argue that elderly and ill patients have the obligation to end their lives to relieve pressure on families and the health care system.

In 2004, Baroness Mary Warnock, Britain’s leader in bioethics, said unequivocally that the ill and elderly had an obligation to die as soon as possible so as not to burden relatives and the medical system. Baroness Warnock, called Britain's “Philosopher Queen”, said in an interview, “In other contexts sacrificing oneself for one's family would be considered good. I don't see what is so horrible about the motive of not wanting to be an increasing nuisance.”

She said, “I am not ashamed to say some lives are more worth living than others.”

UK's "Philosopher Queen," Warnock Says Elderly and Ill have Obligation to Suicide http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/dec/04121406.html


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bioethics; cantwait4inheritance; cultureofdeath; culturewar; dutytodie; eugenics; euthanasia; euthanazia; euthenasia; memememememememememe; murder; nazism; qualityoflife; selfishness; socializedmedicine; solongyouregone; suicide
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To: madprof98
It would seem that Dick Lamm was merely ahead of his time when he asserted people have a 'duty to die and get out of the way' back in the 70s when he was Governor of Colorado. People were outraged them. I wonder how they would react today...
21 posted on 08/18/2006 3:00:49 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: madprof98

Hopefully her mother felt "trapped" after having this ingrate as a child.


22 posted on 08/18/2006 3:01:29 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: madprof98
What an incredibly selfish, egocentric woman mememe woman. She doesn't want to care for the woman who gave birth to her, took care of HER when SHE was a helpless, innocent vulnerable child.
She doesn't even seem to care that there ARE options and help. There is also prayer for courage and strength.
Perhaps she doesn't know to Whom she ought to pray for courage and strength. I wouldn't be surprised.

That's not "Nazi" as one poster puts it. That would put a 1932 beginning of such selfish, self-centered behavior. That didn't start last century. That evil is as old as humanity.

It is not confined to age, gender, religion or anything else. It's confined to a mean, cold, selfish heart of a human being, made in our Creator's image, with free will.
In this case, she CHOSE evil.

23 posted on 08/18/2006 3:02:03 PM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: thoughtomator

A Dr. Josef Mengele fan no doubt.


24 posted on 08/18/2006 3:02:15 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: madprof98
She lives partly in London in a basement flat and in Cheshire in a Peak District farmhouse - wuthering heights and wuthering depths. She has a partner, David, of twenty six years standing and two sons.

Wonder if Jenni would take care of her "partner" if he came down with something unfortunate and debilitating. Or would he have to expect the old pillow over the face or the lethal dose slipped into his tea?

25 posted on 08/18/2006 3:02:47 PM PDT by Argus
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To: madprof98

What a disgusting person.


26 posted on 08/18/2006 3:03:31 PM PDT by Zeon Cowboy ("We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil which we should fear most...")
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To: Argus
"She lives partly in London in a basement flat.......

That would be the part of her less her brain.
27 posted on 08/18/2006 3:05:11 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: madprof98
Mmmmm......pork.

28 posted on 08/18/2006 3:05:42 PM PDT by evets (08-22-06)
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To: madprof98
She said, “I am not ashamed to say some lives are more worth living than others.”

Talk about a self esteem problem. Feminism is a GIANT self esteem problem.
29 posted on 08/18/2006 3:06:28 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: madprof98
The network said: "Jenni is angry that, having fought so hard to become liberated and independent, women are now being trapped into caring for dependent parents."

Then why is she waiting until she becomes "incapacitated" before doing it, why not do it now and save her poor mother from having to hear another peep out of her ungrateful brat of a daughter?!

30 posted on 08/18/2006 3:07:39 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: patton
"Funny how leftists parrot the Nazis"

Yet never hesitate to call us "neocon" Republicans Nazis. It's the hypocrasy of the left.
31 posted on 08/18/2006 3:07:50 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: stm

yep.


32 posted on 08/18/2006 3:09:30 PM PDT by patton (LGOPs = head toward the noise, kill anyone not dressed like you.)
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To: Argus

"She lives partly in London in a basement flat and in Cheshire in a Peak District farmhouse - wuthering heights and wuthering depths. She has a partner, David, of twenty six years standing and two sons."

'Wonder if Jenni would take care of her "partner" if he came down with something unfortunate and debilitating. Or would he have to expect the old pillow over the face or the lethal dose slipped into his tea?'

Well, let's just say that her answer to the old Beatle song question: "Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm 64?" is not just "No," it's "Hell No!!!"

http://www.mp3lyrics.org/b/beatles/when-im-64/



33 posted on 08/18/2006 3:09:36 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: madprof98
"I'm the master of my fate, the captain of my soul" line."

Oh, I've seen that sort of thing. I won't dispute that. However, I haven't seen anyone here refer to caring for an (ill) loved one as being "trapped." That's the line that killed me. It's lower than low.

34 posted on 08/18/2006 3:09:52 PM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: misterrob
If she wants to hurry up and depart this world I am sure she won't be missed.

I prefer she lives to 105 and is ignored by everyone.
35 posted on 08/18/2006 3:10:42 PM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Cecily

That was exactly what the Terri Schiavo case was about, and why so many wanted her to die before her time.


36 posted on 08/18/2006 3:10:55 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: jdm

Actually it is true.

Enjoy, if you have a few hours to read through it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1373116/posts


37 posted on 08/18/2006 3:14:29 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: jdm

Well, this example is especially sordid. I suppose that's why it hits home. Something similar happens whenever the subject of family or familial obligations comes up these days. People will rant and rave about what a "burden" (the usual word) marital obligations and children are: HOW DARE THEY TRY TO TIE ME DOWN! But they tend to get queasy if you propose butchering kids and eating them. There are limits, in other words, but they are limits to which our sensibilities soon grow inured unless they are restrained by the kind of moral principles most people used to profess.


38 posted on 08/18/2006 3:15:43 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98
"Dear Ms. Murray,

You are a burden to me.

rabidralph"

39 posted on 08/18/2006 3:16:17 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: madprof98
If I called these people "libertarian," I would be raising their drunken rantings to the status of a philosophy.

You'd also be offending real libertarians like myself who understand and adhere to the original philosophy known by that name before it was hijacked by anarchists.

40 posted on 08/18/2006 3:16:37 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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