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Bush defends surveillance program
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/18/06 | Deb Reichman - ap

Posted on 08/18/2006 1:48:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

CAMP DAVID, Md. - President Bush on Friday criticized a federal court ruling that said his warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional, declaring that opponents "do not understand the nature of the world in which we live."

"I strongly disagree with that decision, strongly disagree," Bush said, striking his finger on a podium to underscore his point. "That's why I instructed the Justice Department to appeal immediately, and I believe our appeals will be upheld."

U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit on Thursday was the first to find the National Security Agency surveillance program unconstitutional. The program involves monitoring international phone calls and e-mails to and from the United States involving people with suspected ties to terrorists.

"If al-Qaida is calling in to the United States, we want to know why they're calling," Bush said.

Critics say the surveillance program skirts the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which requires court warrants for domestic eavesdropping. The administration has argued that obtaining warrants from a secret court set up under FISA is a time-consuming process unsuited for the government's fast-moving war on terror.

The judge said the government, in defending the program, appeared to be saying the president had the "inherent power" to violate laws of Congress.

"It was never the intent of the framers to give the president such unfettered control," Taylor wrote in a 43-page opinion. "... There are no hereditary Kings in America and no powers not created by the Constitution. So all 'inherent powers' must derive from that Constitution."

On other issues, Bush said it would take the world time to view the war between Israel and Hezbollah as a loss for the Islamic militant group.

"The first reaction, of course, of Hezbollah and its supporters is, declare victory," Bush said. "I guess I would have done the same thing if I were them, but sometimes it takes people a while to come to the sober realization of what forces create stability and which don't. Hezbollah is a force of instability."

Bush also expressed some disappointment with France's contribution to an expanded peacekeeping force in Lebanon.

France had been expected to make a significant new contribution that would form the backbone of the expanded force. But French President Jacques Chirac disappointed the United Nations and other countries by announcing France would contribute just 200 combat engineers to its current 200-member contingent in Lebanon.

"France has said they will send some troops," the president said. "We hope they'll send more."

Members of Bush's economic team stood alongside the president as he spoke under bright sunshine at the Camp David helipad. Among attendees were Vice President Dick Cheney, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, National Economic Council Director Allan Hubbard and White House budget chief Rob Portman.

The meeting came at a time when only 37 percent of Americans support Bush's handling of the economy, according to AP-Ipsos polling in early August. It's also just weeks before congressional midterm elections that will determine whether Republicans continue to control the House and the Senate.

Bush declared the economy solid and strong because of tax cuts his administration pushed through Congress. He rattled off a series of economic indicators, including the nation's 4.8 percent jobless rate in July and 4 percent annual economic growth rate through the first half of the year.

But House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took issue with Bush's upbeat comments on the economy, saying, "President Bush may think the economy is moving forward, but many hard working Americans are stuck living paycheck to paycheck.

"Under President Bush and the Republican Congress, the economic situation for too many Americans is going in the wrong direction," said the California Democrat. Since Bush took office, she said, "real median family income has dropped by $1,700 while families are paying $3,200 more in household costs."

Bush did not mention that the July unemployment rate had inched up from 4.6 percent in June, reflecting a slowdown in job creation that reflects weaker economic growth. And while the gross domestic product expanded at an annual rate of 5.6 percent in the first quarter, it slowed to just 2.5 percent in the April-June quarter.

On Friday, a University of Michigan survey showed consumer confidence fell sharply in early August to the lowest level in 10 months as Americans were rattled by new terrorism concerns and gasoline prices above $3 per gallon.

Bush did not mention the jump in gasoline prices, although he did discuss the need to invest in new energy technologies.

Paulson, speaking to reporters later, said the team spent much time talking about long-term challenges such as changing Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in view of the pending retirement of 78 million baby boomers.

"We think it is quite possible to come up with a fix that is quite doable," Paulson said of reforming the government programs. "The question is whether we can get the support of Congress to get something done."

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AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; annadiggstaylor; bush; counterterrorism; defends; nsa; program; spying; surveillance; wot
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To: Alas Babylon!
you've been pwned

Please explain.

41 posted on 08/18/2006 2:57:26 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: NormsRevenge
FISA is a rubber stamp. Also, you can start your surveillance immediately and wait up to three days to even apply for a FISA warrant. I have yet to hear a single, solitary reason why this administration felt the need to circumvent the FISA law. Can anybody give me one?
42 posted on 08/18/2006 3:00:00 PM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

FISA is not a rubber stamp, they have refused some request, albeit not many from what I have heard.


43 posted on 08/18/2006 3:02:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: outloud
...could be within our lifetimes...

I am more concerned that the left-vs-right, Democrat-vs-Republican, us-vs-them mentality of American politics will destroy this Nation long before any outside influence. I am concerned that "political correctness" and general government stupidity will render this Nation into serious degradation.

I am concerned that our way of life will be fractured into multiculturalism by unmonitored invasion across the southern border. I am concerned that outsourcing for selfish greed will collapse this country into third world status.

In short, terrorism is one of the least most important problems facing America. I do fear that the America I grew up in will not last much longer.

44 posted on 08/18/2006 3:05:24 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
"I have yet to hear a single, solitary reason why this administration felt the need to circumvent the FISA law. Can anybody give me one?"

The court cannot be trusted. Leaks and worse.


45 posted on 08/18/2006 3:06:38 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Alwayswatching
Actually, I only have seen clips, but I saw very positive body language, strong words, and a 'I'm not backing down' attitude all around.

He was focused and unwavering in the clips I saw.

Perhaps you were watching something different? Camp David??

46 posted on 08/18/2006 3:07:50 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
FISA is not a rubber stamp, they have refused some request, albeit not many from what I have heard.

The numbers I have heard are (roughly) 20,000 applications approved, 5 denied, three of which were approved on appeal. I'll try to find a link for you. I'm quite sure that if the administration could show FISA that "we just want to listen to terrorists phonecalls" it would not be a problem.
47 posted on 08/18/2006 3:07:57 PM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: samadams2000
I don't think the President is one bit passive (can't say the same for Congressional Republicans).

He's on top of this war, and it showed in this presser today, IMO.

48 posted on 08/18/2006 3:09:29 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: I see my hands
The court cannot be trusted. Leaks and worse.

Really? FISA Court Justices leaking national security information? Please provide some evidence of your claim.
49 posted on 08/18/2006 3:10:15 PM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: Paperdoll

Yada, yada, yada. One-note Charlies are going to be the death of this place.


50 posted on 08/18/2006 3:10:25 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: 12th_Monkey
He should have ripped that so called judge a new one.

He did. You just can't read big words.

51 posted on 08/18/2006 3:11:41 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: rockabyebaby

"Judge Anna Diggs Taylor is an idiot and when Al Qaida drops the big one ole anna is gonna be sorry, all the deaths will be on her stoopid head........geez, this really fires me up, how stoopid is she??? Did the English just foil a plot using wire taps?????? Hellllllllllllo.........."

Not only is Judge Taylor a stupid liberal judge, you should see her picture!



52 posted on 08/18/2006 3:12:15 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: GingisK
Perhaps he plans to continue to operate outside of Constitutional authority.

These wiretaps are within Bush's constitutional authority. Just wait and see how quickly this ruling is overturned.

53 posted on 08/18/2006 3:13:02 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

You seem to have concerns that he would use this power for other purposes.

Do you take issue with folks who converse with known terrorists that utilize known phone numbers that may have been culled form laptops and other sources as part of raids the last few months overseas?


54 posted on 08/18/2006 3:14:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: sinkspur
Just wait and see how quickly this ruling is overturned.

I bet you missed the part where I missed the part that it wasn't the Supreme Court. I'd be really pissed if Bush snubbed his nose at the Supremes.

I wish we'd just declare war on Islam, then treat them all like enemies. Those that don't want to be legitimate targets could convert to something peaceful.

55 posted on 08/18/2006 3:16:52 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
It would make sense to declare war on Islam ...

No, it would not. It would be foolish and short-sighted, done only to appease the testosteroned-up yahoos who observe the WOT from their Barcaloungers.

56 posted on 08/18/2006 3:17:55 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: RightWhale
Is the country at war or not?

Yes. With itself.

57 posted on 08/18/2006 3:18:40 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Paperdoll

Good grief...Does every thread on FR have to turn into a rant about "open borders"? For the love of God, take it somewhere else.


58 posted on 08/18/2006 3:19:50 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
I have yet to hear a single, solitary reason why this administration felt the need to circumvent the FISA law. Can anybody give me one?

Warrants are not needed to gather information to stop terrorist attacks. Warrants are only needed to gather information pursuant to filing a criminal action.

Read the 4th amendment and its interpretation.

59 posted on 08/18/2006 3:20:07 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: GingisK
In short, terrorism is one of the least most important problems facing America.

A truly brain-dead statement.

60 posted on 08/18/2006 3:21:03 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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