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To: HitmanLV

You've done well with them, and I rarely have, even in terms of getting friendly responses to friendly gestures. You're entitled to conclude that they're nice and I'm equally entitled to conclude that they're shallow (though not necessarily stupid). But I think we're both a little off. The test isn't how they treat you, or more accurately speaking, how they react to you, or to me. The test is how they treat people they don't react to.

David DeAngelo, a dating expert who has some very good advice along these lines, always says that attraction isn't a decision. These women you're so fond of didn't decide to be nice to you. They reacted favorably to you on a gut level because, in some way, shape or form, they found you sexually attractive. Good behavior resulted directly from this, and naturally you thought well of them because of it. This doesn't make you a helpful source on the psychology of beautiful women.

I salute your talents and I'm glad you've had a good time, but most of us don't have such assets, haven't had such a good time, and won't be convinced by your rose-colored view of babes.


337 posted on 08/19/2006 11:09:19 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: California Patriot
I think I didn't make myself clear - I wasn't speaking exclusively in terms of romantically attracting women (though that is a subset of what I am describing). Very goodlooking women are just women - they do have a different set of advantages over other people, but also a different set of challenges.

I don't think your conclusion that very goodlooking women are shallow is fair (actually, that mindset might be coming through subconsciously and is alienating some of these women who you say you have rarely done well with). I don't immediately think that very goodlooking women are notably shallow (though some of them clearly are), but in any event it's not a very useful belief to hold.

My views aren't unusually rose colored - sure some women are stuck up, shallow, etc. I just don't give them any mind. I don't think every woman I have interacted very well with has been sexually attracted to me -in fact, I know that's not the case. I have no idea why you cite that - in fact, it's pretty faulty reasoning on your part and very misplaced.

That may be something you got from that dating expert, but I have to also point out that by your own admission you 'rarely' have had friendly or otherwise positive responses from very goodlooking women, or any woman.

Maybe you should at least consider changing your approach or outlook. That is, maybe it hasn't consistently been that the women you have encountered had a problem. Maybe somebody else had a problem.
347 posted on 08/19/2006 8:18:07 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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