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RUSH LIMBAUGH LIVE THREAD FRIDAY AUGUST 18, 2006
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Posted on 08/18/2006 8:47:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

A couple of articles why the NSA ruling by the Carter Appointee is so much garbage.

http://levin.nationalreview.com/

By Mark Levin

Judge Not

Are there no limits to which activist judges won’t go to advance their political and policy agendas? Answer: No. I wrote an entire book about it. And U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, appointed in the twilight of the Carter administration, is the latest in a long list of disgraceful lawyers who abuse their power.

There are four things that strike me most about Taylor’s opinion. First, she grants standing to such plaintiffs as the ACLU, CAIR, Greenpeace, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Christopher Hitchens, and others, without a shred of information showing any connection between the plaintiffs’ assertions of constitutional violations and any harm to them. However, Taylor reveals herself in this excerpt from her ruling:

… [T]he court need not speculate upon the kind of activity the Plaintiffs want to engage in – they want to engage in conversations with individuals abroad without fear that their First Amendment rights are being infringed upon. Therefore, this court concludes that Plaintiffs have satisfied the requirement of alleging “actual or threatened injury” as a result of Defendants’ conduct

Taylor writes later:

Although this court is persuaded that Plaintiffs have alleged sufficient injury to establish standing, it is important to note that if the court were to deny standing based on the unsubstantiated minor distinctions drawn by Defendants, the President’s action in warrantless wiretapping, in contravention of FISA, Title III, and the First and Fourth Amendments, would be immunized from judicial scrutiny. …

In other words, if Taylor had ruled properly and found that the Plaintiffs had no standing to bring their lawsuit, she would have denied herself the ability to strike down the NSA intercept program by throwing out the lawsuit.

Second, Taylor fails to address adequately that which has been debated here and elsewhere for months, i.e., the president’s inherent constitutional powers as commander-in-chief, and the long line of court cases (and historical evidence) related to it.

Third, in many places, the opinion reads like a political screed.

Fourth, Taylor insists on the immediate implementation of her decision, meaning that the NSA must stop intercepting enemy communications at this very moment, unless it succeeds in getting judicial relief elsewhere.

The ACLU et al have won the day, as they often do these days when they take their agenda to our courts. Forum shopping works. The judiciary does not.

The opinion is here. (H/T: Andy McCarthy)

UPDATE: This from the Justice Department: "The parties have also agreed to a stay of the injunction until the District Court can hear the Department's motion for a stay pending appeal."

UPDATE II: Just to be clear, Taylor ruled that the president/NSA violated the FISA, Title III, the First and Fourth Amendments, and the Separation of Powers doctrine.


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To: rush

Maybe this will be a wakeup call for our AG to prosecute the leakers, naaaaah, ain't gonna happen.

Lets see, the new madia, right or wrong, stopped Miers and Dubai but is silent on the leakers. I just don't get it.


281 posted on 08/18/2006 10:28:56 AM PDT by Mr Cobol (Quit swatting at flies and go after the manure pile. Curtis LeMay on VIET NAM WAR!)
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To: mewzilla
MSM, not information, nor education, but, indoctrination.
282 posted on 08/18/2006 10:29:16 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: mewzilla

I must have been asleep that week. Completely missed that story.


283 posted on 08/18/2006 10:29:37 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Roccus

my cousin is the same. She said -- I never vote -- I said "thank you"


284 posted on 08/18/2006 10:30:01 AM PDT by acsrp38 (Found: WMD Saddam didn't have before he didn't have them)
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To: LibertyLee

So they get the talking point for a year, great.


285 posted on 08/18/2006 10:30:03 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: bwteim
Schlossel is quite the babe, isn't she? Not that her arguments aren't the best part about her...
286 posted on 08/18/2006 10:30:59 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and US out of the UN!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
...FDR even gave orders to open and read personal mail during war time. Can you imagine the stink if that happened now?

Which illustrates a point that probably worries us all: Does America have what it takes to win against this cunning enemy. (I'm speaking of al-Qaeda - not the judiciary)

287 posted on 08/18/2006 10:32:03 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win.)
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To: Roccus
So they get the talking point for a year, great.

The wheels of justice grind just slow enough for the election. HOPEFULLY, another of these cases will be decided the other way (I believe there are other similar cases in other Circuits), and it will come up as a conflict of Circuits, which would be an easier PR legal situation.

288 posted on 08/18/2006 10:33:03 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and US out of the UN!)
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To: varmintxer

I think we got tired of beating our heads against the wall. THe Executive branch has shown they will not go after the legislative branch for anything...including hiding money in the freezer.


289 posted on 08/18/2006 10:33:08 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: bwteim
Ooops, Schlussel as in German for "key"...sorry...
290 posted on 08/18/2006 10:34:09 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and US out of the UN!)
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To: LibertyLee

I only examine the content....

/yeah sure


291 posted on 08/18/2006 10:34:17 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Roccus
Yeah but that's just the typical liberal swill. All bluster, nothing to back it up. When it's all over, the ruling will be reversed as having no legal basis or Constitutional fact to back it up, and the NSA program will continue, but there will be one other byproduct. It will, and has already, create even more angry conservative voters, who will be even more bent to keep the GOP in control of the Congress, so the next two years, retiring liberal Judges like this liberal hack broad, will be replaced with constructionist rational Judges by Bush. THAT is why ultimately this will be good for us.

The ruling is bad, stands opposed by precedent, five previous cases in fact, and it just gives more ammunition to the conservatives like us that always say that liberal activist Judges have to be replaced and that liberals do not protect us from terrorism and are more pre-occupied with incorrectly perceived violations of ficticious civil rights, than protecting the counry. This willbe a bad backlash for the liberals in the end, and it will all happen before the election.

292 posted on 08/18/2006 10:34:26 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: bwteim

Terrorists in suits. That's all lawyers like him are.


293 posted on 08/18/2006 10:35:04 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: acsrp38

In 00, my idiot niece (that's how I always differentiate her from her two sisters) said she was going to vote fo Clinton. "Why?" I asked her. "I don't know, I just like her." (said in a valley-girl voice) I wanted to stick screwdrivers in my ears till they met.


She forgot to vote on election day!


294 posted on 08/18/2006 10:35:34 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: LibertyLee

A bigoted comment from a Democrat...I'm so surprised...


295 posted on 08/18/2006 10:36:24 AM PDT by sofaman (To Kofi Annan, and his fellow Jew-haters, "Never again!")
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To: MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685796/posts


296 posted on 08/18/2006 10:36:48 AM PDT by hattend (Stop! No more! The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised! - Zapp Brannigan:)
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To: Roccus

Next time tell her the Democrats vote on Wednesday.


297 posted on 08/18/2006 10:37:03 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: hattend

Afternoon hattend.


298 posted on 08/18/2006 10:37:13 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: TexasPatriot8

I've long perceived that the cause-and-effect gene is missing from liberals. They believe they're exempt from the results of their words and deeds.


299 posted on 08/18/2006 10:37:19 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: LibertyLee

After yesterday, I'm pretty sure it's already conflicted. At least that's what they were saying on Brit's roundtable last night.


300 posted on 08/18/2006 10:37:23 AM PDT by Roccus
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