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RUSH LIMBAUGH LIVE THREAD FRIDAY AUGUST 18, 2006
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Posted on 08/18/2006 8:47:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

A couple of articles why the NSA ruling by the Carter Appointee is so much garbage.

http://levin.nationalreview.com/

By Mark Levin

Judge Not

Are there no limits to which activist judges won’t go to advance their political and policy agendas? Answer: No. I wrote an entire book about it. And U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, appointed in the twilight of the Carter administration, is the latest in a long list of disgraceful lawyers who abuse their power.

There are four things that strike me most about Taylor’s opinion. First, she grants standing to such plaintiffs as the ACLU, CAIR, Greenpeace, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Christopher Hitchens, and others, without a shred of information showing any connection between the plaintiffs’ assertions of constitutional violations and any harm to them. However, Taylor reveals herself in this excerpt from her ruling:

… [T]he court need not speculate upon the kind of activity the Plaintiffs want to engage in – they want to engage in conversations with individuals abroad without fear that their First Amendment rights are being infringed upon. Therefore, this court concludes that Plaintiffs have satisfied the requirement of alleging “actual or threatened injury” as a result of Defendants’ conduct

Taylor writes later:

Although this court is persuaded that Plaintiffs have alleged sufficient injury to establish standing, it is important to note that if the court were to deny standing based on the unsubstantiated minor distinctions drawn by Defendants, the President’s action in warrantless wiretapping, in contravention of FISA, Title III, and the First and Fourth Amendments, would be immunized from judicial scrutiny. …

In other words, if Taylor had ruled properly and found that the Plaintiffs had no standing to bring their lawsuit, she would have denied herself the ability to strike down the NSA intercept program by throwing out the lawsuit.

Second, Taylor fails to address adequately that which has been debated here and elsewhere for months, i.e., the president’s inherent constitutional powers as commander-in-chief, and the long line of court cases (and historical evidence) related to it.

Third, in many places, the opinion reads like a political screed.

Fourth, Taylor insists on the immediate implementation of her decision, meaning that the NSA must stop intercepting enemy communications at this very moment, unless it succeeds in getting judicial relief elsewhere.

The ACLU et al have won the day, as they often do these days when they take their agenda to our courts. Forum shopping works. The judiciary does not.

The opinion is here. (H/T: Andy McCarthy)

UPDATE: This from the Justice Department: "The parties have also agreed to a stay of the injunction until the District Court can hear the Department's motion for a stay pending appeal."

UPDATE II: Just to be clear, Taylor ruled that the president/NSA violated the FISA, Title III, the First and Fourth Amendments, and the Separation of Powers doctrine.


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To: OldFriend

My dull headache is returning... ;)


141 posted on 08/18/2006 9:40:00 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: MNJohnnie
Ummm ... doesn't Turley have a client that has been charged with terrorism ????


142 posted on 08/18/2006 9:40:48 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: RasterMaster; MNJohnnie

Did Rush cover Anna Diggs Taylor's infamous father Charles yet?


143 posted on 08/18/2006 9:41:02 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: evets
AWWWWWWW. I needed that. Sigh :)

And to say thank you...

www.dailykitten.com

For anyone who needs a kitten break (^..^)/

144 posted on 08/18/2006 9:41:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: AliVeritas

What about him? Link?


145 posted on 08/18/2006 9:41:53 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Roccus

The men of our church are getting together next week to go skeet shooting. At our church, it isn't a good men's outing if you don't come back smelling like fish or gunpowder.

By the way, what's the best way to cook skeet?


146 posted on 08/18/2006 9:42:03 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Hi Jonnie , it's been a long time since I was on a live Rush thread and listening to Rush at the same time.
Hello everyone.
147 posted on 08/18/2006 9:42:12 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Mo1

Turley should work on his enunciation ("aministration", "constution", etc.).


148 posted on 08/18/2006 9:42:27 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: All

Oh good grief, "torture". It's a mental illness that liberals would rather have terrorist acts carried out, killing THOUSANDS, including women and children and babies, rather than smack around some sub-human low life cock roach terrorist. There is a disconnect in reality when someone is THAT against means if intimidation and mild "torture" to save thousands of lives. I'd do it in a heart beat if it would get information to save lives, and I have zero problem with that. If people don't want to be beaten on, they shouldn't be trying to murder civilians. It's that simple.


149 posted on 08/18/2006 9:43:07 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: Roccus
The Dems don't need no steenking facts!

Now, don't say that. It depends on the Dem. I used to be a flaming lib. If the lib in question is merely ignorant, instead of an ideologue, then there's still hope :)

150 posted on 08/18/2006 9:43:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MNJohnnie
Just getting here. Rush interviewing Jonathan Turley? Oh, I see - it's a tape of Turley.

Hello all.
151 posted on 08/18/2006 9:43:32 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win.)
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To: All

This ruling sure doesn't make me feel safer. I'd be nervous flying until it's back on line and working.


152 posted on 08/18/2006 9:43:36 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: bwteim
Hey Traitor Senators, YOU have no "over site" of the President's Commander in Chief powers. CO Equal branches of Govt, NOT the President as some sort of clerk of the Imperial Congress who has to beg you arrogant nothings for permission to do his job. The ONLY hijacking going on here is an arrogant childish OUT OF CONTROL Democrat party is putting their own emotional whimsy in front of their duty to keep the people safe.

This slime bag habit of rushing to the cameras and screaming hysteric lie after lie makes ALL the current Democrats completely UNFIT for any measure of ANY political Power at ANY level. They simply cannot be trusted with power. Their out of control lust for power shows their fundamental unfitness to hold it.

153 posted on 08/18/2006 9:43:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: AliVeritas

"Did Rush cover Anna Diggs Taylor's infamous father Charles yet?"

Not (yet)


154 posted on 08/18/2006 9:44:09 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Sensei Ern

Marinate them in melted butter, lemon, balsmic vinegar and chopped chives for 24 hrs at room temp. Then throw out the skeet and pour the rest over the Walleye fillets you're grilling on the BBQ.


155 posted on 08/18/2006 9:44:54 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: MNJohnnie

Great rant, great point.

As long as the Dems stay glued to their cut and run, b*tch and whine positions, there may be some hope.


156 posted on 08/18/2006 9:45:29 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: All

In case you didn't see this:
Connect the Dots?
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004297.htm


157 posted on 08/18/2006 9:45:36 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: MNJohnnie

IB4P?


158 posted on 08/18/2006 9:46:09 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: mewzilla

Oh, so you're of the 'hope springs eternal' school, eh?


159 posted on 08/18/2006 9:46:13 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: TexasPatriot8
"Torture" in just another one of those words the left refuses to define, like "middle class" and "rich". Conservatives complain about how the Libs have hijacked the discourse, but rarely set out to set the parameters for the discourse.
160 posted on 08/18/2006 9:46:23 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Helen Thomas on anticipating and handling a crisis: "I'll live under that bridge when I get to it.")
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