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Confession in JonBenet case questioned (Picked her up at school?)
Yahoo ^ | 8/17/06

Posted on 08/17/2006 5:58:41 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside

Confession in JonBenet case questioned

By CATHERINE TSAI and JON SARCHE, Associated Press

Writers 38 minutes ago

BOULDER, Colo. - For a moment, it seemed the decade-old mystery surrounding the slaying of a child beauty queen had been solved. But authorities Thursday cautioned against rushing to judge the schoolteacher who made a stunning confession that he killed JonBenet Ramsey.

For now, the only public evidence against John Mark Karr are his own words. And questions have already been raised about the details of his story, including whether he drugged the 6-year-old girl, sexually assaulted her or was even in Colorado at the time of the slaying.

Those questions led some to wonder whether Karr was the answer to the long-unsolved slaying or a disturbed wannabe trying to insert himself into a high-profile case.

"We should all heed the poignant advice of John Ramsey," Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy, quoting the little girl's father. "Do not jump to conclusions, do not rush to judgment, do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course."

Paraded before a raucous crush of reporters in Bangkok, Thailand, the sullen Karr told how he loved JonBenet, was with her when she died but that her death was an accident. And while vague on the details — "it would take several hours" — he answered flatly when asked if he was innocent: "No."

"The bottom line is that they now have a confession and until and unless they can corroborate that confession with either physical evidence or strong circumstantial evidence, that's all they have," said Scott Robinson, a Denver attorney who has followed the case from the beginning.

Added former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman: "I have to believe they have more than this kooky confession."

Karr told investigators he drugged and sexually assaulted the little girl before accidentally killing her in her Boulder home, according to a senior Thai police officer who was briefed about the interview with U.S. authorities.

Yet JonBenet's autopsy report found no evidence of drugs, saying her death was caused by strangulation after a beating that included a fractured skull. And while it describes vaginal injuries, it makes no conclusions about whether she was raped. Investigators later concluded there was no semen on JonBenet's body.

According to Thai police, Karr also said he picked JonBenet up at school and took her back to her home. But the slaying came during the holiday vacation season.

Karr's ex-wife told TV reporters she cannot defend him, then insisted he was with her in Alabama during Christmas 1996, when JonBenet's battered body was found in the basement of her home. And authorities have not said whether Karr could have written the detailed ransom note found in the Ramsey home, with its demand for $118,000 (the bonus that had recently been awarded to the girl's father, John Ramsey).

Even the Colorado professor who swapped four years' worth of e-mails with Karr and brought him to the attention of prosecutors in May refused to characterize the suspect either as killer or kook.

"I don't know that he's guilty," said Michael Tracey, who teaches journalism at the University of Colorado. "Obviously, I went to the district attorney for a reason, but let him have his day in court and let JonBenet have her day in court and let's see how it plays out."

Karr himself added to the mystery, telling The Associated Press in Bangkok that JonBenet's death was "not what it seems to be."

Asked what happened when JonBenet died, he said: "It would take several hours to describe that. It's a very involved series of events that would involve a lot of time. It's very painful for me to talk about it."

Karr's background includes an arrest in Petaluma, Calif., in April 2001 on five misdemeanor counts of possession of child pornography, to which he pleaded not guilty. He had not been seen by authorities after violating the terms of his release, which included avoiding child pornography and places where children congregate, such as schools, beaches and parks

Any previous relationship between Karr and the Ramseys remained a mystery Thursday, though both have ties to suburban Atlanta. District Attorney Lacy refused to discuss the case during a brief news conference and suggested Karr's arrest may have been forced by concern over public safety and fears the suspect might flee.

"There are circumstances that exist in any case that mandate an arrest before an investigation is complete," Lacy said.

Karr, 41, was arrested at a Bangkok apartment Wednesday, a day after he began teaching second grade at an international school, Lacy said.

Hours later, Thai authorities sat him before a crowded room of news crews. Karr stunned reporters by admitting: "I was with JonBenet when she died. Her death was an accident."

"I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," Karr told the AP.

Thai police said Karr told them the slaying was only second-degree murder. One expert suggested his confession was geared to spare him a first-degree murder charge.

"He seemed convinced that what he said would make him guilty of a lesser crime," said Sharon L. Davies, a former prosecutor at the Ohio State University law school who has studied confessions. "It's hard to understand how that would be the case and how the physical evidence that has been at least reported about her killing would support his description of this as an accident."

Legal experts said DNA evidence will likely be key: DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear and authorities have never said whether it matches anyone in an FBI database. U.S. and Thai officials did not directly answer a question at a news conference about whether there was DNA evidence connecting Karr to the crime.

Karr was given a mouth-swab DNA test in Bangkok, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. The results of that test were not immediately known. Karr will be given another DNA test when he returns to the United States in the next several days, the official said.

Karr will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security told reporters in Bangkok.

Lin Wood, the Ramsey family's longtime attorney in Atlanta, said Karr went to great lengths to conceal his identity in e-mails to the university professor, going so far as to use a computer server in Canada.

Asked if authorities could tell whether Karr had firsthand knowledge of the murder or had just picked up information from news accounts, Wood said: "There is information about the murder that has never been publicly disclosed." He did not elaborate.

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, was quoted by San Francisco television station KGO saying she was with her former husband in Alabama at the time of JonBenet's killing and she does not believe he was involved in the homicide.

Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said there were "serious questions" about the case.

"I hope we have found the murderer of JonBenet, but I have not heard the evidence that compels that conclusion," he said.

Karr's description of the case as an accident also rang false to experts.

"It's hard to imagine a more intentional, deliberate murder than hitting a little girl in the head so hard that she had almost a foot-long fracture in her skull and then deliberately fashioning a garrotte to twist until it buries in her neck and slowly stops her breathing," said Silverman, the former Denver prosecutor. "This has always been a case of deliberate murder."


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 15minutesoffame; boulder; johnmarkkarr; jonbenetramsey; ramsey
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Karr also said he picked JonBenet up at school and took her back to her home. But the slaying came during the holiday vacation season.
1 posted on 08/17/2006 5:58:42 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Thailand?


2 posted on 08/17/2006 5:59:54 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Mr. Brightside

Damn Brightside, you are following this more closely then the confessor was. Hmmmmmm. Dialing 911. LOL


3 posted on 08/17/2006 6:00:56 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Mr. Brightside

His whole confession is falling apart....he's a nut job.


4 posted on 08/17/2006 6:02:18 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: pissant
Thailand?

That's where all the sickos go to have sex with children.

5 posted on 08/17/2006 6:03:56 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

I think the bigger question here is: Why does this guy have khakis pulled up to his chest with no belt? And no guy buttons all three buttons on a shirt like that.


6 posted on 08/17/2006 6:04:09 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Rockitz

I thought people went to get Thai-stick. ;o)


7 posted on 08/17/2006 6:05:06 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Mr. Brightside

He did not do it. He certainly has a fantasy about doing it.
By the way, they aired the Southpark episode last night with the Ramseys, Gary Condit and OJ. All I can say is "Goooble Gobble".


8 posted on 08/17/2006 6:09:33 PM PDT by kik5150
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To: Mr. Brightside

HOAX! MSM sucked in hook, line and sinker. No fact checkers...


9 posted on 08/17/2006 6:12:06 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: pissant

10 posted on 08/17/2006 6:12:17 PM PDT by Shermy (A louder mime)
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To: mystery-ak

I certainly hope this guy knew some details that were not publicly known, and that the DA isn't buying a bill of goods. I tend to believe that this guy had to know something that piqued authorties interest, and that this isn't just your run of the mill whack-job confession. If Karr isn't the perp, then I think he knows who the perp is and the perp shared these details with him. These pedophiles like to compare notes and brag to fellow travellers about their conquests. Karr could be using that knowledge to get himself a free ride to the US and out of a legthy sentence in a Thai prison that he most likely wouldn't survive.

All of this is assuming that LE and the DA are competent. We know that the DA and LE in Boulder weren't competent 10 years ago. Here's hoping that the new batch is a cut above.

Also, judging by his appearance, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he has AIDS, especially when you consider his proclivities and where he was. This may be nothing more than a ploy to get into a US jail where he will receive at least some level of healthcare.

Then, we have the curious little factoid that he lived close to the Ramseys in GA, but doesn't seem to have ever lived in CO. Very, very curious little deal we have going on here. I suspect it will be some time before we have the full story.


11 posted on 08/17/2006 6:14:36 PM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: Mr. Brightside
I'm curious about the "Colorado professor" who traded e-mails with him for four years. Why? Were they friends? Or did they have some sort of common interest? Hmmmm.....?
12 posted on 08/17/2006 6:15:37 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Prayers for our Israeli friends. They're going to need them, as will we.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

The guy is a kook.

Yesterday on ABC radio they reported that the DNA was a match. And now this report says they haven't released that info yet?

I should have know better.

Its the MSM after all...


13 posted on 08/17/2006 6:15:59 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: CremeSaver

You would think that if this suspect as so intelligent and had studied the case for so many years, he would have a better confession than this.


14 posted on 08/17/2006 6:17:09 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

I still believe someone within the Ramsey family did it. SOme other facts that the MSM have not bothered to check on-evidence showed she was not penetrated.It was done by using a digit(finger)The Ramsey house is like a maze.It would be extremely difficult for someone unfamiliar with it to find their way around


15 posted on 08/17/2006 6:17:39 PM PDT by gettheUNout
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To: Mr. Brightside

How much of his Resume is true? Probably not much of it. Hope thery are checking it out right now!


16 posted on 08/17/2006 6:20:27 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: gettheUNout

This guys fruitcake city.
I don't believe his story.


17 posted on 08/17/2006 6:20:46 PM PDT by SonnyBubba
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To: Space Wrangler

Only two things will solve this case....a connection to Boulder and most important, DNA.....his was fascinated by the JonBenet case and was e-mailing a prof who had written a book about this murder, so he knew a lot of facts that the average person doesn't.........and yes, he looks like he has AIDS..


18 posted on 08/17/2006 6:22:35 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Mr. Brightside
This is a very curious situation. He was so careful and deliberate with his choice of words during his tv interviews. "I was with Jon-Benet when she died," as if she died by natural causes. He also said it "was an accident." Strangulation is not an accident. Somethings very wrong with this story.
19 posted on 08/17/2006 6:25:59 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Prayers for our Israeli friends. They're going to need them, as will we.)
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To: SonnyBubba

Anyone who would get a thrill taking credit for a child murder is DEFINITELY a fruitcake. When I first saw him,I thought he could be a cross dresser becasue his facial appearance seems effeminite


20 posted on 08/17/2006 6:27:12 PM PDT by gettheUNout
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