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Confession in JonBenet case questioned (Picked her up at school?)
Yahoo ^ | 8/17/06

Posted on 08/17/2006 5:58:41 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside

Confession in JonBenet case questioned

By CATHERINE TSAI and JON SARCHE, Associated Press

Writers 38 minutes ago

BOULDER, Colo. - For a moment, it seemed the decade-old mystery surrounding the slaying of a child beauty queen had been solved. But authorities Thursday cautioned against rushing to judge the schoolteacher who made a stunning confession that he killed JonBenet Ramsey.

For now, the only public evidence against John Mark Karr are his own words. And questions have already been raised about the details of his story, including whether he drugged the 6-year-old girl, sexually assaulted her or was even in Colorado at the time of the slaying.

Those questions led some to wonder whether Karr was the answer to the long-unsolved slaying or a disturbed wannabe trying to insert himself into a high-profile case.

"We should all heed the poignant advice of John Ramsey," Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy, quoting the little girl's father. "Do not jump to conclusions, do not rush to judgment, do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course."

Paraded before a raucous crush of reporters in Bangkok, Thailand, the sullen Karr told how he loved JonBenet, was with her when she died but that her death was an accident. And while vague on the details — "it would take several hours" — he answered flatly when asked if he was innocent: "No."

"The bottom line is that they now have a confession and until and unless they can corroborate that confession with either physical evidence or strong circumstantial evidence, that's all they have," said Scott Robinson, a Denver attorney who has followed the case from the beginning.

Added former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman: "I have to believe they have more than this kooky confession."

Karr told investigators he drugged and sexually assaulted the little girl before accidentally killing her in her Boulder home, according to a senior Thai police officer who was briefed about the interview with U.S. authorities.

Yet JonBenet's autopsy report found no evidence of drugs, saying her death was caused by strangulation after a beating that included a fractured skull. And while it describes vaginal injuries, it makes no conclusions about whether she was raped. Investigators later concluded there was no semen on JonBenet's body.

According to Thai police, Karr also said he picked JonBenet up at school and took her back to her home. But the slaying came during the holiday vacation season.

Karr's ex-wife told TV reporters she cannot defend him, then insisted he was with her in Alabama during Christmas 1996, when JonBenet's battered body was found in the basement of her home. And authorities have not said whether Karr could have written the detailed ransom note found in the Ramsey home, with its demand for $118,000 (the bonus that had recently been awarded to the girl's father, John Ramsey).

Even the Colorado professor who swapped four years' worth of e-mails with Karr and brought him to the attention of prosecutors in May refused to characterize the suspect either as killer or kook.

"I don't know that he's guilty," said Michael Tracey, who teaches journalism at the University of Colorado. "Obviously, I went to the district attorney for a reason, but let him have his day in court and let JonBenet have her day in court and let's see how it plays out."

Karr himself added to the mystery, telling The Associated Press in Bangkok that JonBenet's death was "not what it seems to be."

Asked what happened when JonBenet died, he said: "It would take several hours to describe that. It's a very involved series of events that would involve a lot of time. It's very painful for me to talk about it."

Karr's background includes an arrest in Petaluma, Calif., in April 2001 on five misdemeanor counts of possession of child pornography, to which he pleaded not guilty. He had not been seen by authorities after violating the terms of his release, which included avoiding child pornography and places where children congregate, such as schools, beaches and parks

Any previous relationship between Karr and the Ramseys remained a mystery Thursday, though both have ties to suburban Atlanta. District Attorney Lacy refused to discuss the case during a brief news conference and suggested Karr's arrest may have been forced by concern over public safety and fears the suspect might flee.

"There are circumstances that exist in any case that mandate an arrest before an investigation is complete," Lacy said.

Karr, 41, was arrested at a Bangkok apartment Wednesday, a day after he began teaching second grade at an international school, Lacy said.

Hours later, Thai authorities sat him before a crowded room of news crews. Karr stunned reporters by admitting: "I was with JonBenet when she died. Her death was an accident."

"I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," Karr told the AP.

Thai police said Karr told them the slaying was only second-degree murder. One expert suggested his confession was geared to spare him a first-degree murder charge.

"He seemed convinced that what he said would make him guilty of a lesser crime," said Sharon L. Davies, a former prosecutor at the Ohio State University law school who has studied confessions. "It's hard to understand how that would be the case and how the physical evidence that has been at least reported about her killing would support his description of this as an accident."

Legal experts said DNA evidence will likely be key: DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear and authorities have never said whether it matches anyone in an FBI database. U.S. and Thai officials did not directly answer a question at a news conference about whether there was DNA evidence connecting Karr to the crime.

Karr was given a mouth-swab DNA test in Bangkok, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. The results of that test were not immediately known. Karr will be given another DNA test when he returns to the United States in the next several days, the official said.

Karr will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security told reporters in Bangkok.

Lin Wood, the Ramsey family's longtime attorney in Atlanta, said Karr went to great lengths to conceal his identity in e-mails to the university professor, going so far as to use a computer server in Canada.

Asked if authorities could tell whether Karr had firsthand knowledge of the murder or had just picked up information from news accounts, Wood said: "There is information about the murder that has never been publicly disclosed." He did not elaborate.

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, was quoted by San Francisco television station KGO saying she was with her former husband in Alabama at the time of JonBenet's killing and she does not believe he was involved in the homicide.

Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said there were "serious questions" about the case.

"I hope we have found the murderer of JonBenet, but I have not heard the evidence that compels that conclusion," he said.

Karr's description of the case as an accident also rang false to experts.

"It's hard to imagine a more intentional, deliberate murder than hitting a little girl in the head so hard that she had almost a foot-long fracture in her skull and then deliberately fashioning a garrotte to twist until it buries in her neck and slowly stops her breathing," said Silverman, the former Denver prosecutor. "This has always been a case of deliberate murder."


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 15minutesoffame; boulder; johnmarkkarr; jonbenetramsey; ramsey
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To: Shermy

By golly, I bet they sell Jerry garcia ties there.


21 posted on 08/17/2006 6:30:00 PM PDT by pissant
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To: mystery-ak
"fascinated by the JonBenet case and was e-mailing a prof who had written a book about this murder, so he knew a lot of facts that the average person doesn't........."

Well, that answers my question as to why he chose that professor to write to, I didn't know he wrote a book about the murder. :0)

22 posted on 08/17/2006 6:30:42 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Prayers for our Israeli friends. They're going to need them, as will we.)
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To: nonliberal
I think the bigger question here is: Why does this guy have khakis pulled up to his chest with no belt? And no guy buttons all three buttons on a shirt like that.

He reminds me of Pee Wee Herman.

23 posted on 08/17/2006 6:33:49 PM PDT by Palladin (Ceasefire? What ceasefire??--IDF)
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To: CremeSaver

It was reported last night, unless like a lot of other things was misreported........


24 posted on 08/17/2006 6:34:33 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: CremeSaver

The professor, Michael Tracey, also made three poorly-produced documentaries about the JonBenet murder. In all three, he identified different men as the perpetrators, and totally exonerated the Ramseys. The documentaries were so poor, factually and production-wise, that they were never shown in the US. They were seen on British tabloid TV.

Now Michael Tracey is promoting his NEW book on the JonBenet murder.

Coincidence? I think not.

The taxpayers are going to pay millions to prosecute this nutjob teacher from Thailand. When the case falls through, they should go after Michael Tracey to reimburse the wasted funds.


25 posted on 08/17/2006 6:38:29 PM PDT by Palladin (Ceasefire? What ceasefire??--IDF)
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To: nonliberal
Why does this guy have khakis pulled up to his chest with no belt?

Perhaps the Thais do what Americans do with anyone who may be considered a threat to himself - they remove the belt and the shoelaces to prevent a suicide attempt.

26 posted on 08/17/2006 6:41:34 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Even the Colorado professor who swapped four years' worth of e-mails with Karr and brought him to the attention of prosecutors in May refused to characterize the suspect either as killer or kook.

This arrest is because of emails???

27 posted on 08/17/2006 6:43:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: mystery-ak
His whole confession is falling apart....he's a nut job.

I think so too

But why didn't CO/Boulder police/DA's office pick up on that?

If this guy turns out to be a sick nutcase not involved with the Ramsey case ... it makes them look like fools

28 posted on 08/17/2006 6:46:08 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Space Wrangler
If Karr isn't the perp, then I think he knows who the perp is and the perp shared these details with him.

No. He has been obsessed with the murder and had been even talking with someone close to the case supposedly to write a book, so he knows a lot of details made public and probably some not so public. When this first hit the news last night, I pegged him as a wacko. The DA should have done a DNA test before calling in the cameras. We'll see soon enough.

29 posted on 08/17/2006 6:48:17 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: RGSpincich
HOAX! MSM sucked in hook, line and sinker. No fact checkers...

You got that right. The MSM could resolve this case within 24 hours if they had a clue, and it doesn't involve anything as complicated as DNA testing. Just go to Atlanta and establish without any doubt whether or not he was there on December 26, 1996. The family claims he was there. Prove it. Case closed.

30 posted on 08/17/2006 6:55:08 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: mtbopfuyn

My theory assumes that the DA is competent. If this DA has been hoodwinked by some whackjob looking for a ticket out of a Thai prison, then this case will never see a conviction. I would like to think that this guy had enough pertinent information to get a serious look. If not, we're just dealing with a new set of Keystone cops.


31 posted on 08/17/2006 6:55:18 PM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: Mr. Brightside

For somebody who spent so much time studying this case, he sure got some basic details wrong.....


32 posted on 08/17/2006 6:59:06 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: Mo1
If this guy turns out to be a sick nut case not involved with the Ramsey case ... it makes them look like fools.

They botched the investigation ten years ago. History has a way of repeating itself.

33 posted on 08/17/2006 6:59:52 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: Space Wrangler
a new set of Keystone cops.

This is Boulder CO after all. Ward ChurchillLand.

34 posted on 08/17/2006 7:00:28 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Mo1

it makes them look like fools



It wouldn't be the first time...it seems all the talking heads are having the same doubts.....the DNA will tell all.


35 posted on 08/17/2006 7:00:51 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: CremeSaver

That Colorado Professer was close to the Ramseys. This may be where he learned unknown details of the crime


36 posted on 08/17/2006 7:01:39 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: Howlin

You've been amazingly quiet about all this. Not interested?


37 posted on 08/17/2006 7:06:30 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Tall_Texan

On vacation!


38 posted on 08/17/2006 7:07:36 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: All
Does anybody else keep thinking that Jack Ruby is going to jump out of the crowd and shoot this guy every time they show the video of the Thailand Police doing his perp walk??? All this video needs is to be in black & white and for him to be yelling that he's a patsy.
39 posted on 08/17/2006 7:10:31 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: mystery-ak

he not just a nut job - he is a Homosexual Pedophile Nut Job. My guess is he has been making a living by selling child porn to other pedophiles and doing homosexual tricks for money while living overseas.


40 posted on 08/17/2006 7:18:41 PM PDT by stlnative
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