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A World Split Apart (Solzhenitsyn Nailed it 30 Years Ago...Dynamite Read!!)
Archives from Columbia University ^ | 6-8-78 | Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Posted on 08/17/2006 3:25:50 PM PDT by Renfield

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1 posted on 08/17/2006 3:25:54 PM PDT by Renfield
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the most cruel mistake occurred with the failure to understand the Vietnam war. Some people sincerely wanted all wars to stop just as soon as possible; others believed that there should be room for national, or communist, self-determination in Vietnam, or in Cambodia, as we see today with particular clarity. But members of the U.S. anti-war movement wound up being involved in the betrayal of Far Eastern nations, in a genocide and in the suffering today imposed on 30 million people there. Do those convinced pacifists hear the moans coming from there? Do they understand their responsibility today? Or do they prefer not to hear?

He does indeed nail it. Great post.

2 posted on 08/17/2006 3:31:50 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("No one cried when Clinton spied." -Crosslake)
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bump for later read


3 posted on 08/17/2006 3:34:14 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Renfield
When I read The Gulag Archipelago in 1974, I became a conservative and have never looked back.
4 posted on 08/17/2006 3:38:24 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

This is right on - its unspoken implication is that our only hope at defeating the Islamic Jihadists is to infect them with our malaise, materialism, and lack of courage, hopefully before they can kill millions. Anyone who comes up with the best way to do that will the hero of the Millineum.


5 posted on 08/17/2006 3:40:25 PM PDT by PC99
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To: Renfield

I still have my original copy of the Washington Post (Sunday section) pages of this speech when it was first given. He nailed it well. The West has forgotten God.


6 posted on 08/17/2006 3:43:21 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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The defense of individual rights has reached such extremes as to make society as a whole defenseless against certain individuals. It is time, in the West, to defend not so much human rights as human obligations.

Destructive and irresponsible freedom has been granted boundless space. Society appears to have little defense against the abyss of human decadence, such as, for example, misuse of liberty for moral violence against young people, motion pictures full of pornography, crime and horror. It is considered to be part of freedom and theoretically counter-balanced by the young people's right not to look or not to accept. Life organized legalistically has thus shown its inability to defend itself against the corrosion of evil.

If it were only just the liberals he was talking about, I wouldn't worry so much. But I want to save this one for the numerous threads here on FreeRepublic when the libertarians come out like cockroaches to defend their favorite perversions.

7 posted on 08/17/2006 3:46:31 PM PDT by madprof98
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Ping for later...


8 posted on 08/17/2006 3:51:33 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Muslims - The "flesh eating bacteria" version of humans.)
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Can't agree with your glowing assessment of Solzhenitzyn. He never actually understood individual freedom. I'm sure he would be totally aghast at Free Republic.


9 posted on 08/17/2006 3:54:33 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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our only hope at defeating the Islamic Jihadists is to infect them with our malaise, materialism, and lack of courage, hopefully before they can kill millions

That sounds so....French.

To defend oneself, one must also be ready to die; there is little such readiness in a society raised in the cult of material well-being. Nothing is left, then, but concessions, attempts to gain time and betrayal.

Of course, almost 30 years later, these pronouncements all seem less than prescient. The implacable Soviet and the degenerate West. Things didn't quite work out that way.

Really loved the Gulag Archipelago, though. And The Cancer Ward.

10 posted on 08/17/2006 3:57:21 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Wonder Warthog

BUMP!


11 posted on 08/17/2006 3:57:32 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Solzhenitsyn's ideal form of govt was a religious dictatorship.


12 posted on 08/17/2006 3:58:25 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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And then we elected Reagan...


13 posted on 08/17/2006 4:04:31 PM PDT by Mariner
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bump


15 posted on 08/17/2006 4:09:52 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (The only way to bring a permanent peace is to eliminate the permanent threat. - FReeper Optimist)
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To: Renfield

ping for later


16 posted on 08/17/2006 4:20:08 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Renfield

He is amazing. A great read.


17 posted on 08/17/2006 4:20:59 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Wonder Warthog

"Can't agree with your glowing assessment of Solzhenitzyn. He never actually understood individual freedom. I'm sure he would be totally aghast at Free Republic."

On the contrary, Solzhenitsyn understood very well that individual freedom, untempered by any moral standards, does not lead to an optimum society, or to a civilization which can endure. Just because the Soviet Union is gone does not mean the West is in the clear, as some fools like GHW Bush thought. Today's Russia, China, and Islam are threats every bit as deadly as the old Soviet Union. Atheistic hedonism is not going to keep the West alive.

Unlike many FR posters, Solzhenitsyn knew the difference between conservatism and liberaltarianism.


18 posted on 08/17/2006 4:25:34 PM PDT by hellbender
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For later


19 posted on 08/17/2006 4:25:55 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: Renfield; sandyeggo

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/08/usual-suspects.html

Over the past two days, the Belmont Club has had two awesome threads. First, Wretchard posted this speech above and the comments poured in. His take was that the West had lost the Truth and was now aimless and growing powerless against people of will.

Then, he posted the link above today using the movie, "The Usual Suspects," as his commentary.

They are 2 astounding posts and manage to weave the comments of Solzhenitsyn with the war raging between civilizations. Astounding stuff. I invite all to ponder their implications in the War on Terror.

Sandy, read "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch." That is amazing too.

F


20 posted on 08/17/2006 4:26:30 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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