[spatso]

William James in "Varieties of Religious Experience" taught that we probably made a mistake when we ditched pantheism for monotheism. His idea was that people could more readily identify with a more personalized notion of the Gods. So, I take no offense at the notion that God might be better marketed in a multiplicity of identities that better serves our consumer society.

On the other hand, James also taught that when we attempt to explain or comprehend the notion of sacred mystery it will always be More and always beyond our capacity of fully knowing. This is, of course, my fundamental issue with IG. In trying to fight science they turn a sacred mystery of unknowing into an attempted scientific formulation to try and explain what we do not know. I have no idea if IG is good science. I do know that it is dreadful theology.

[pageonetoo]

I am not an apolgist for ID. I am a die hard creation person. I don't understand the mechanics of it, but I stand on earth, and chew on beef.

I have not devoted my studies of the natural world to determine the nature of nature. I use my time living here to dwell on living, loving, and having a good time. But, the context I place myslef into requires me to follow through with certain components of my belief system.

I have reasonable intelligence, and sufficient "scientific basics" to understand that what I know, I do not need to understand. What I believe has the same determinant. I have faith. That is my determinant.

I know that if I shoot a bullet into the air, the bullet will return to ground. I used that knowledge as a fire control technician in the US Navy, circa 1966-68. Our bullets were 5" diameter rounds.

I learned enough to build almost 500 homes as a general contractor. I did not pound any nails. I was a general contractor, and relied on those who had the proper talents to get the job done.

Science has its place. It is nice to treat bacterial infections, and replace body parts. It's fun to play god... and surely you will not die!