[pageonetoo]

I am not an apolgist for ID. I am a die hard creation person. I don't understand the mechanics of it, but I stand on earth, and chew on beef.

I have not devoted my studies of the natural world to determine the nature of nature. I use my time living here to dwell on living, loving, and having a good time. But, the context I place myslef into requires me to follow through with certain components of my belief system.

I have reasonable intelligence, and sufficient "scientific basics" to understand that what I know, I do not need to understand. What I believe has the same determinant. I have faith. That is my determinant.

I know that if I shoot a bullet into the air, the bullet will return to ground. I used that knowledge as a fire control technician in the US Navy, circa 1966-68. Our bullets were 5" diameter rounds.

I learned enough to build almost 500 homes as a general contractor. I did not pound any nails. I was a general contractor, and relied on those who had the proper talents to get the job done.

Science has its place. It is nice to treat bacterial infections, and replace body parts. It's fun to play god... and surely you will not die!

[spatso]

"Science has its place. It is nice to treat bacterial infections, and replace body parts. It's fun to play god... and surely you will not die!"

I followed everything you said up to the above quote and agreed. If your exclamation point is too suggest that in playing God we deceive ourselves into believing we will not die, I agree. When we put ourselves into the position of knowing or speaking for God (against science) surely we have already died in terms of our own spiritual growth.