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To: steve-b
It's not a matter of her being "called into question"; it's a matter of her being caught in a lie.

Have you read Godless?
249 posted on 08/18/2006 9:02:20 AM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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To: Antoninus

I like how you continue to ask if that person has read "Godless", yet they refuse to answer.

In his farewell address, George Washington warned us of the dangers of the spirit of the political party. That spirit can limit our education and our growth. If one can rid themselves of that spirit, this book is a book that will encourage good thought and good debate.

Coulter identifies today's political wars as a war of belief systems. The godless do not think their belief system qualifies as a religion. Therefore, they feel free to impose their belief system upon everybody in the nation by using the processes of government. Her argument in this area is well presented.

The last two chapters is where Coulter puts the heat on by citing the proven frauds of evolutionists and their continued lack of honesty. The numbers of hoaxes add up while the necessary corrections within our education system (which are under the control of the godless) remain stagnant. Is Ms. Coulter charging that the evolutionists are corrupt? Yes. And she does it well.

Sadly, the liberalists I talk to will not read this book because they don't like its author. This upholds my belief that a political follower doesn't care what is said, they care who says it. "Godless" is a book that should be read by all who seek truth and are able to think and debate matters for their own growth.


251 posted on 08/18/2006 9:14:41 AM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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To: Antoninus
Have you read Godless?

I fail to see how this would alter the truth value of Coulter's false claims.
259 posted on 08/18/2006 9:40:04 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Antoninus
In case you had a problem with the link, the following are the key portions of Ichneumon's post (emphasis added):
Okay. Now read from the top of [page 208] down to the sentence which ends, "...the Darwiniacs' version of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

(Background: In case you didn't know, the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was an infamous forgery -- it was created by Jew-haters in order to make it look as if Jewish leaders were plotting world domination. It's one of the most disgusting and vicious hoaxes of all time, was made up out of thin air, and yet after being repeatedly debunked is still believed authentic by some conspiracy-minded kooks among the skinhead and neo-Nazi movement, because it "supports" their prejudices and paranoia about Jews.)

So when Coulter accuses the "Darwiniacs" (charming -- no one will ever mistake her for a lady) of something akin to the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", she's making one of the most extreme possible insults, insinuating that the "Darwiniacs" believe something that is a complete fabrication, and something that no sane person would want to associate with.

And her tale on page 208 sounds pretty bad, doesn't it? She's doing everything she can to try to imply that Dawkins et al just made something up out of thin air, and tried to attribute it to a researcher who, when asked, had no idea what Dawkins was talking about -- Coulter wants you to believe that a fraud had been committed, and that in fact no researcher has successfully modeled the evolution of the eye.

Do you agree that this is the impression she's trying to give? With me so far? Good.

It's a lie. But the person lying is Coulter. The ONLY grain of truth in her rant is that Dawkins had misspoken when he described the research as a "computer simulation" -- it was actually a combination of mathematical models, physical models, and computer analysis, but not a "computer simulation" in the strictest sense of the word. But the research WAS actually performed, it WAS actually done by the researcher Coulter tries to imply had denied its existence, Dawkins's description of the results of the research WERE ACCURATE.

If Coulter had wanted to take issue with the research methodology, she's free to do so. But to DISHONESTLY try to blow up an extremely insignificant slip of the tongue (calling something a "computer model" when it was analyzed in a different manner) into a false tale that the research was never done and that "Darwiniacs" just made it all up is an INCREDIBLY dishonest sleight-of-hand that would make Michael Moore green with envy.

If Coulter allegedly has a good case, why does she have to lie about it? ...

Worse, she can't even claim not to be aware of these things. In her endnotes for this chapter (second part of reference 10 for chapter 8 on pg. 297), she specifically cites the article in "Commentary" magazine which contains multiple rebuttals by Nilsson (the author of the eye evolution paper) and other researchers, who dismantle David Berlinski (the "authority" Coulter cites for her "it didn't exist" accusation) on his errors, his false accusations, and his making a mountain out of a molehill over the "computer simulation" label. Read that again until it sinks in -- COULTER ADMITS TO READING the letters in which the researchers themselves (and others) discuss the research itself (so Coulter KNOWS the research actually exists) and taking Berlinski to task for nitpicking about the "computer simulation" description (so Coulter KNOWS this is a trivial issue). And yet after KNOWING this, Coulter went ahead and MADE THE FALSE ACCUSATION of "it didn't exist" concerning Nilsson's research, *AND* spun that lie around the already discredited nitpicking about whether or not the research was best described as a "computer simulation" or some other descriptive term....


260 posted on 08/18/2006 9:50:02 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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