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To: freedumb2003
"If all we have is applied science eventually we run up against a wall. We need a theoretical foundation for the applied sciences. That is how we expand knowledge."

Creationists have founded many fields of science. To assume that they didn't have a theoritical foundation in their respective areas because they believed in Creation is simply an amazingly bad assumption. The only theoretical foundation that evolution really provides is to evolution itself.

Long list of Scientists who believed in Creation
Another long list of scientists who believed in Creation (Includes Gregor Mendel the father of Genetics)

I posit that without TToE we would NEVER have mapped the genome.

I wish that you could have told that to Gregor Mendel, the father of Genetics. If we could discover genetics without knowledge of DNA, then it's simply implausible to think we wouldn't continue to ask the questions to investigate the cause of genetics and thus find DNA.

"Understanding evolution is how viral and bacterial agents are identified and dispatched."

Not really. Selection plays a role in antibiotic resistance, and mutations do to. But neither selection nor mutations by themselves are evolution. And neither selection nor mutations have been shown to create new species. The study of protein structures are offering cures. But thats not evolution either. I'm not aware of anything that evolution has offered to help dispatch a bacteria or virus.

Superbugs not super after all

170 posted on 08/17/2006 7:59:31 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Creationists have founded many fields of science. To assume that they didn't have a theoritical foundation in their respective areas because they believed in Creation is simply an amazingly bad assumption. The only theoretical foundation that evolution really provides is to evolution itself.

That is like saying "the only theoreical foundation that physics really provides is physics itself."

IOW, semantically null.

Long list of Scientists who believed in Creation Another long list of scientists who believed in Creation (Includes Gregor Mendel the father of Genetics)

a. Hundreds (which I will grant although I didn't count) of these (how many are in the Life Sciences?) versus MILLIONS of scientists gives you .001% in the most optimistic scenario. Not much support, really.

I wish that you could have told that to Gregor Mendel, the father of Genetics. If we could discover genetics without knowledge of DNA, then it's simply implausible to think we wouldn't continue to ask the questions to investigate the cause of genetics and thus find DNA.

He wasn't alone by any means. "Understanding evolution is how viral and bacterial agents are identified and dispatched." Not really. Selection plays a role in antibiotic resistance, and mutations do to. But neither selection nor mutations by themselves are evolution. And neither selection nor mutations have been shown to create new species. The study of protein structures are offering cures. But thats not evolution either. I'm not aware of anything that evolution has offered to help dispatch a bacteria or virus.

Then you aren't paying attention. And I guess you are unaware of the New York mosquitos which have, indeed, created a new species (since they can't mate with the above-ground species).

You try like the dickens to knock down TToE, but:

You have no scientific alternative

You cannot butress CR/ID.

I suspect you just like to "argue" (although your attempted riposte's really don't rise to that level). But it is sad that you are helping to dumb down America.

I will pray for you. I will also ask God to take into consideration your emotion overriding the clear science before you.

I am sure you don't mean to create the damage that you are doing.

184 posted on 08/17/2006 8:23:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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