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Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey case calls her death 'an accident'
WTNH ^ | 8/17/06 | AP

Posted on 08/17/2006 5:29:08 AM PDT by varyouga

(Bangkok, Thailand-AP, Aug. 17, 2006 Updated 8:08 AM) _ A former American school teacher said publicly Thursday he was with JonBenet Ramsey when she was killed and called the 6-year-old's death "an accident," a stunning admission that should help answer 10 years of questions in the unsolved murder case. "I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," he told The Associated Press.

John Mark Karr, 41, will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security told a news conference in Bangkok.

"I was with JonBenet when she died," Karr told reporters afterward, visibly nervous and stuttering as he spoke. "Her death was an accident."

Asked if he was innocent of the crime, Karr said: "No."

Later, as he was escorted to his guesthouse to pick up his belongings, he told the AP: "I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet. It's very important for me that everyone knows that I love her very much, that her death was unintentional, that it was an accident."

Asked what happened when JonBenet died, he said: "It would take several hours to describe that. It's a very involved series of events that would involve a lot of time. It's very painful for me to talk about it."

Karr also told the AP he contacted JonBenet's mother, Patsy Ramsey, before her death in June and that he wrote her letters about "many things." He said he hoped that she received the letters.

Karr confessed to the killing after his arrest Wednesday at his downtown Bangkok guesthouse by Thai and American authorities, said Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul, head of Thailand's immigration police.

He said Karr insisted his crime was not first-degree murder but that JonBenet died during a kidnapping attempt that went awry.

"He said it was second-degree murder. He said it was unintentional," Suwat said.

"He said he loved this child, that he was in love her. He said she was very pretty, a pageant queen. She was the school star, she was very cute and sweet," Suwat said.

Karr declined to say what his connection was to the Ramsey family. Dressed in a turquoise polo shirt and khaki trousers, he appeared ashen with an expressionless look on his face.

An attorney for the Ramsey family said Wednesday that Karr once lived near the family in Conyers, Ga.

JonBenet was found beaten and strangled in the basement of the family's home in Boulder, Colo., on Dec. 26, 1996.

Wednesday's arrest was a surprise development in one of America's most lurid murder cases, which had left a cloud of suspicion over her family after years went by with no arrests. Some feared the case would never be solved.

Striking video images of the blonde-haired girl in child beauty pageants helped propel the case into one of the highest-profile mysteries in the United States.

A law enforcement source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the AP that Karr had been communicating periodically with somebody in Boulder who had been following the case and cooperating with law enforcement officials.

A University of Colorado spokesman, Barrie Hartman, said journalism professor Michael Tracey communicated with Karr over several months and contacted police. The university spokesman said he didn't know what prompted Tracey to become suspicious of Karr.

Tracey produced a documentary in 2004 called "Who Killed JonBenet?" A woman who answered the phone at a number under his name said he didn't live there anymore; his office phone mailbox was full.

DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear, but Lin Wood, the family's longtime attorney, said two years ago that detectives were unable to match it to anyone in an FBI database. It was not known whether investigators had any DNA evidence against Karr.

The Ramseys learned that police were investigating Karr at least a month before Patsy Ramsey's death in June of ovarian cancer, the family said.

In a statement Wednesday, father John Ramsey said that if his wife had lived to see Karr's arrest, she "would no doubt have been as pleased as I am with today's development almost 10 years after our daughter's murder."

Suwat quoted Karr as saying he tried to kidnap JonBenet for a $118,000 ransom but that his plan went awry and he strangled her. Patsy Ramsey reported finding a ransom note in the house demanding $118,000 for her daughter.

Investigators said at one point that JonBenet's parents were under an "umbrella of suspicion" in the slaying, and some news accounts cast suspicion on JonBenet's older brother, Burke. But the Ramseys insisted an intruder killed their daughter, and no one was ever charged.

Over the years, some experts suggested that investigators had botched the case so thoroughly that it might never be solved. The Ramseys moved back to Atlanta after their daughter's slaying.

"It's been a very long 10 years, and I'm just sorry Patsy isn't here for me to hug her neck," said Wood, the family attorney.

"John and Patsy lived their lives knowing they were innocent, trying to raise a son despite the furor around them," Wood told MSNBC.

Suwat said U.S. authorities informed Thai police on Aug. 11 that an arrest warrant had been issued for Karr on charges of premeditated murder. The warrant was sent to Thai police on Wednesday.

"Through investigation we were able to determine where his residence was and the Thais arrested him," Hurst said. "He did not resist. He did express surprise."

Hurst said Karr has been "very cooperative" with authorities and that he's shown a "variety of emotions."

Suwat said Karr arrived in Bangkok on June 6 from Malaysia to look for a teaching job. It was not clear whether he had gotten a job, the police officer said.

Karr's visa has been revoked as an "undesirable person" given the accusations against him, and U.S. authorities were expected to take him to the United States in the next few days, Suwat said.

Hurst, with the department's U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Bangkok, said that Karr had left the United States several years ago and had not returned.

The immigration and customs office had assisted the Boulder County District Attorney's Office and the Royal Thai Police in the investigation.

The suspect, who has been in Thailand five times over the past two years, was being detained by immigration police pending arrival of U.S. officials, Suwat said.

When asked how he could travel for so many years in Asia, and whether he was independently wealthy, Hurst responded, "We're asking the same questions."

Police said Karr had been living in a dormitory-style guesthouse called The Blooms in a neighborhood of massage parlors and travel agents that cater to expatriate residents and sex tourists. The nine-story hotel offers rooms for as short as three-hour rentals.

The district attorney in Boulder, Mary Lacy, said the arrest followed several months of work.

She said Karr, who had traveled extensively across the world, may also be connected to a prior case in Santa Rosa County, Calif. She did not provide further details.

Sonoma County Chief Deputy District Attorney Joan Risse confirmed the child pornography charges and arrest warrant against a John Mark Karr, though she cautioned that she didn't know if he was the same person held Bangkok. State records show Karr lost his teaching credential in 2002.


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To: najida
It is just dance..not like she is out on the street.

I wouldn't know what a perv's dream date would look like..
221 posted on 08/17/2006 1:15:23 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: nyconse

Well, now there are reports that he claimed to have drugged the girl, but there is a problem: tests on her body revealed that she had not been drugged....

I suspect that we may have a nut who just wants attention.


222 posted on 08/17/2006 1:23:08 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: najida
Are You Kidding Me?????
223 posted on 08/17/2006 1:34:08 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: nyconse

If I had a basement, I check it at least once a day to see if I had left a kid in it.


224 posted on 08/17/2006 2:32:14 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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225 posted on 08/17/2006 2:56:31 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: Irisshlass

Almost every woman in that picture is over 30....
The first 2 are my youngest ever, and they are 20 and 21 respectively...
I'm 49 BTW...

You'll find that most Raks instructors have VERY and I mean VERY strong opinions about age appropriate dress, and many won't even teach girls under 12....

I do, but very folk and only folk.

I would be just as angry if someone stuck a 6 year old in a bedlah as I would a at JB being made up and dressed in an adultish evening gown.

So no, I'm not kidding, if anything, I know that girls get sexualized pretty damn quickly, so let them be little girls until the last possible second.

I believe in little girls being little girls.


226 posted on 08/17/2006 3:31:32 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida
>>Almost every woman in that picture is over 30...<<

I hope they didn't have any of their children in the audience watching the sexual moves as belly dancing as shown by their outfits.

I'm talking about American Dance..American Culture where girls begin as early as 3. And again depending on the theme that is how the costumes are chosen...from Broadway to Disney Musicals...not Gypsy Rose Lee. And again it is on stage, not walking down the street.

>>I know that girls get sexualized pretty damn quickly, so let them be little girls until the last possible second.<<

Not all woman are sexualized either..not me, my daughters or any of my friends. So I don't understand your view of what being a woman is.
227 posted on 08/17/2006 5:56:10 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

LOL!

You clearly no nothing of Belly Dance.
It IS American mostly,
Came straight Sol Bloom and the worlds fair,
Isadora Duncan, Oscar Wilde, silent movies and Theda Bara....not to mention victorian soft porn.
WE invented the silly jewel in the belly button, floor work,
veil dancing, the stupid "Harem girl" fantasy...

Yada yada yada. The sleazy sex part WE added in
vaudeville and burlesque etc

I teach true Raks Sharki (Dance Oriental) and it is far
less sexual than most of the crap you see on stage in 'jazz' or hip hop dances. It is a woman's dance done in family enclaves and often to accompany a woman during childbirth. If anything, it's the ultimate female only dance form.

I will tell you this,
Our moves are LESS sexual than the pevlic drops, locks and boob shakes that I have seen at dance recitals and by cheerleaders. I teach my girls that 'Good girls' dance with their feet together...always. Unlike what I was taught in jazz, modern etc. The crudest dance I was ever taught was a Bob Fosse number. Ballet? Don't get me stared on own skimpy and revealing THOSE costumes are.

We are more covered than most cheerleaders I've seen lately.

We've danced at churches, nursing homes, community groups etc. We dance a combination of Classic Egyptian, Tunisian, Gitana, Tzigane' etc etc, some of these dances date back for centuries... and yes, good old American Caberet and the newer child American Tribal.

One of my students is a minister's wife who's gone on to teach her women's group at church. And yes, we've all danced for our kids, families etc.... and most dancers with daughters are continuing the centuries old tradition of mother teaching daughter and the female bond.

BTW, the term "American" moves in this dance is a synoymous with saying the move is sexual and sleazy.

And I teach my students not to do them.


228 posted on 08/17/2006 6:20:20 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida
>>I teach my girls that 'Good girls' dance with their feet together...always.>>

That is how the penguins dance! LOL
229 posted on 08/17/2006 7:24:20 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: najida

230 posted on 08/17/2006 8:10:20 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
Silly, You know exactly what I mean....;) Seriously, Check out this Little Girl Note the cute shoes and ruffled socks. She's all of 5 (and looks it) but there are adults who would kill to dance as well. And her facial expressions are perfect.
232 posted on 08/18/2006 7:14:26 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida

And you tell me that is not sexual? Lets move on..I am..


234 posted on 08/18/2006 10:06:25 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

It tells me a lot about you....

JB looks like a slut in red lipstick and teased hair.

This child is just dancing.


235 posted on 08/18/2006 10:12:47 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: Irisshlass

True, I'm not familiar with recital attire, but it looked pretty creepy to me.


236 posted on 08/19/2006 6:37:59 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Rocky Mountain High

Probably if you were wearing it..


237 posted on 08/20/2006 1:37:43 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

True, last time I dressed like that, I was pretty drunk and...oh, never mind.


238 posted on 08/22/2006 9:07:09 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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